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its been 17 months. lets solidify a top 5

cR WoundCowboy

WoundCowbae <3
So basically what you're saying is Batman and Sinestro have the same amount of losing matchups; 4

But then Sinestro has way more winning matchups and has a few 7-3's and 8-2's sprinkled here and there. So how could Batman possibly be any higher when he only has 6-4's and only like seven or eight of them
I mean, okay, sinestro bodies cyborg and joker. Hurray. Batman fights the good characters better than sinestro does.
 

ForeverKing

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Check my post right above this. How would you answer it?
What you're saying is Batman's matchup chart is better than Sinestro's just because he beats Doomsday......

ok

That is only one matchup Batman is better in. But Sinestro is better in like 15 other matchups
 
What you're saying is Batman's matchup chart is better than Sinestro's just because he beats Doomsday......

ok

That is only one matchup Batman is better in. But Sinestro is better in like 15 other matchups
That's true. So is it better to be better at fighting the Joker, Nightwing and Cyborg or Doomsday?
 

ForeverKing

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I mean, okay, sinestro bodies cyborg and joker. Hurray. Batman fights the good characters better than sinestro does.
Not really. We both lose to Martian and Aquaman, we both 5-5 Batgirl, but Batman loses to Zod. We both do equally well against Flash, Wonder Woman and Bane.

So technically Batman and Sinestro fight all the "good characters" the same except Sinestro does better against Zod.

I don't even consider Doomsday a "good character" he's like a random mid-tier that Sinestro probably goes 5-5 with anyways
 
Not really. We both lose to Martian and Aquaman, we both 5-5 Batgirl, but Batman loses to Zod. We both do equally well against Flash, Wonder Woman and Bane.

So technically Batman and Sinestro fight all the "good characters" the same except Sinestro does better against Zod.

I don't even consider Doomsday a "good character" he's like a random mid-tier that Sinestro probably goes 5-5 with anyways
Whenever if ever you play as Sinestro vs Whiteboi or Noobe or some uknown hero Doomsday....

 

The Highlander

There can be only one
Wonder Woman is not a bad character. She may not be top 5 but she is guaranteed top 10, like around #6-8. She only loses to some of the top 5 like Martian Aquaman and possibly Zod, that's it. Then she beats or goes even with the rest of the cast
And sinestro... and she only really beats characters 6-4 hmm sounds suspiciously like another one of your mains.
 
I would rather body the whole mid to low tier and go 4-6 against Doomsday, than beat Doomsday 6-4 and go 5-5 vs the whole mid to low tier
Seems you and TelekineticBeing both agree on this. I disagree and Cowboy does as well. The 5th slot is difficult because the characters left outside of top 4 are not as dominant but rather decided upon on a personal taste on which kind of MU chart they would like. Is it better to have a MU chart that bodies most of the cast and struggle vs a select few popular tournament characters or have a 5-5 chart all across the board.
 

RNLDRGN

RONALD ROGAN
I agree.


Right now I'll say Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Zod, Batgirl, Superman. Or replace Superman with Sinestro/Bane.
SINESTRO? Get outta here.

BG
AM
MMH
Zod
???

Last top 5 character is entirely dependent on the matchup. Could be DD, Flash, Bane, Batman, WW, Supes. But in no way is Sinestro flat out top 5. I fail to believe it.
 

cR WoundCowboy

WoundCowbae <3
Not really. We both lose to Martian and Aquaman, we both 5-5 Batgirl, but Batman loses to Zod. We both do equally well against Flash, Wonder Woman and Bane.

So technically Batman and Sinestro fight all the "good characters" the same except Sinestro does better against Zod.

I don't even consider Doomsday a "good character" he's like a random mid-tier that Sinestro probably goes 5-5 with anyways
Lol you don't consider him good because batman has an easy time fighting him. Sinestro has to deal with all of his bs
 

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
a lot of players mention zod, mmh, am, and bg frequently for top 5 spots, but who is the last piece of the puzzle? is it bane, bm, dd? or perhaps another? lets discuss and see if we can finally agree after all this time.

also, im aware this has been discussed before, but idc. this site needs more game talk and threads for it lately. im not looking to be the christopher columbus of thread creating.

i say bane lol
WE HAVE MADE IT TO THE MOUNTAINTOP!
Rise.
 

IMakeItL00kC00L

Do not provoke a god
I'd put flash at #5, with bane barely behind him. As far as sin vs bats goes, imo they're pretty close to each other as far as rankings wise (7-10) so tier list wise i think you'll see similarities in their mu charts
 

ForeverKing

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Lol you don't consider him good because batman has an easy time fighting him. Sinestro has to deal with all of his bs
@Chuckychuck
Even if Sinestro does lose to Doomsday, that's literally only one match that Batman does better in. Sinestro does better than Batman against:

Nightwing
Cyborg
Green Arrow
Superman
Raven
Hawgirl
Shazam
Green Lanturn
Lobo
Joker
Harley
Zod
Lex
Catwoman
Zod

So would you rather do better against Doomsday or do better against the above? I'd rather lose to Doomsday and do better against the above.
 

Groove Heaven

Jobber-baron
MMH, Aquaman, Zod, Batgirl, and Batman all have insanely good MUs.

I feel like Flash has too many known losing MUs to be called top 5 versus these guys.
 
@Chuckychuck

Lose, dude. Lose.

Loose = not tight. Like female porn stars' vaginas.
lmao doing some homework and this brought a smile to my face #YEEEAAPPPPP and as far as who fits that 5th spot, I've came to the conclusion that Superman fits there better than any other contender for it. I mean, his matchup chart is like kung lao (wins multiple matchups, some 5/5s, and his losing matchups are only 4 6 "and he doesn't lose to many characters actually") Supes doesn't do as well as he used to of course (pre patch lao did better than post patch lao) but he can hold his own versus the entire cast and no top tier bodies him.
 

IMakeItL00kC00L

Do not provoke a god
@Chuckychuck
Even if Sinestro does lose to Doomsday, that's literally only one match that Batman does better in. Sinestro does better than Batman against:

Nightwing
Cyborg
Green Arrow
Superman
Raven
Hawgirl
Shazam
Green Lanturn
Lobo
Joker
Harley
Zod
Lex
Catwoman
Zod

So would you rather do better against Doomsday or do better against the above? I'd rather lose to Doomsday and do better against the above.
You said zod twice lol
 

KRYS9984

Noob
I think we can agree that Aquaman, Martian Manhunter and Batgirl are top 3; the remaining spots can change depending on the climate, your mood, your last meal, etc.....

Bane, Batman, Doomsday, Flash, Sinestro, Superman, Wonder Woman and Zod are top 10 material (possible top 5 depending on the person you're talking to) yet it's difficult to know exactly where they all fit.

In my opinion, there's too many variables to determine a definitive Top 5 / Top 10 (4 - 10) and their exact placements but that's the nature of the game (everyone is broken in their own way).