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Perfect Legend vs King. What really happened.

Would PL have taken the. Win if roles were reversed?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 128 91.4%

  • No.

    Votes: 12 8.6%
  • Total voters
    140
ForeverKing

ForeverKing

Patreon.com/MK_ForeverKing
Art said:
You know I think King had something to do with it. It was a bit too obvious as PL quit and King was handed off a wad of cash after the fact. With King's shit-eating grin it looked as though there may have been some sort of "underhandedness" going down that may have caused the game to pause. I'm sorry but faces never lie!
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Yeah, while the 100 people standing behind me weren't watching, I smacked PL's controller out of his hands. Because I'm not good enough to beat PL legit
 
HGTV Soapboxfan

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
JDM said:
Only thing that pissed me off was:

I went to SummerJam 7 last year and we were playing in a team tournament match, a known marvel player's stick paused on us, but since "he was comboing when he paused" we didn't have the option to take the match. I completely understood that. How is it, that PL who was COMBOING King got DQed? He could have just unpaused and finished his combo...
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While this sounds good in theory, it effectively legalizes pausing the game during your own combo (or whatever rule you make). Once again, if you give an inch, they take a mile. For example, one time I was playing a tag tournament in mk and @G4S Ermacio said all bs is allowed, presumably implying that we could do stupid tag shit. Turns out he meant that he would use the invincibility glitch to just win with Kabal. While that example is not very similar to this situation in how specific it is, I know multiple players that would pause the game during their own combo at the end of the round or whatever, and take advantage fo the time to think over and options and disrupt the flow of the match. As stupid as it can be, the best rule is that a pause equals a loss.

EDIT: To be clear, regardless of the necessity of the rule, I agree that these situations are really crappy and there is no way to really handle it well.
 
Lilith

Lilith

Baebality
Art said:
You know I think King had something to do with it. It was a bit too obvious as PL quit and King was handed off a wad of cash after the fact. With King's shit-eating grin it looked as though there may have been some sort of "underhandedness" going down that may have caused the game to pause. I'm sorry but faces never lie!
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This might just be one of the stupidest post I have seen on here.
 
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Ray Riazy

Noob
I don't even know why this is a discussion. Its been industry standard for any fighting game that if you pause during a tournament match for whatever reason, the other person can decide on what happens. Its happen to me before in street fighter and I was at full mercy of my opponent. It doesn't matter the reason or why it happened. There isn't any of this you take a life bar or one round. Its the match. Always has been.

PL messed up, and instead of rebounding sucking it up and just doing what he did again to king. He got worked up and then decided to have a shouting match with Shock afterwords. I have never seen such disrespect to a T.O in a long time especially to shock.

Its been a rule for a reason ask any T.O what they will say. its up to the player who didn't pause to decide whether they take the round or not.
 
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Lilith

Lilith

Baebality
Ray Riazy said:
I don't even know why this is a discussion. Its been industry standard for any fighting game that if you pause during a tournament match for whatever reason, the other person can decide on what happens. Its happen to me before in street fighter and I was full mercy of my opponent. It doesn't matter the reason or why it happened. There isn't any of this you take a life bar or one round. Its the match. Always has been.

PL messed up, and instead of rebounding sucking it up and just doing what he did again to king. He got worked up and then decided to have a shouting match with Shock afterwords. I have never seen such disrespect to a T.O in a long time especially to shock.

Its been a rule for a reason ask any T.O what they will say. its up to the player who didn't pause to decide whether they take the round or not.
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THIS
 
aldazo

aldazo

Waiting for Havik
gamemk said:
The rules should be changed for situations when a player is clearly going to win regardless of any unfortunate accident. In those situations it shouldn't be an option to take a round or a match from a winning player. Carl was going to win that round. There was no doubt of that. Carl was going to win, so he should have been awarded the round. I would say this, though, the opposing player should be given the option of starting over or playing it from position.

Obviously, position matters more in Injustice than in other games, because in SF the round would simply reset anyway. Anyway, the rule, as it stands, is stupid. For example, If you have 3% life in SF, and I hit you with an ultra, and my controller falls out I should not lose that round. You had zero chance of winning the round, so it's pointless and unfair to award it to you. Take MK9, you have 3% life and I hit you with xray--you are going to die--but my controller disconnects. It's asinine to award the round to the dead player. Stupid rule, but since the rule exists should FK have taken it? Yes. Should the rule exist? No. I can understand awarding rounds to pauses or disconnects during active rounds, but not when a round is clearly lost.
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A simple rule could be if you have the lead and hit the pause button then the match is restarted, so you lose the advantage but not the round/game; if you don't have the lead and hit the pause button the you lose that round; now because IGAU has no rounds then the match is restarted, the oponent takes your first life bar, then wait to the timer to be set at the same time when the pause happened, and start the fight.
Edit: I forgot meter, if you have the lead then the match is restarted but the other player has the right to build 50% from start...well, thinking about it, we should consider how great is the lead advantage before the pause and other things, but I think it is worth; it punished the player that pause while taking in consideration the circunstances during the fight, instead of a blind rule.
 
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Mikemetroid

Mikemetroid

Who hired this guy, WTF?
The rule is that its up the opposing player if he would rather take the round (meaning 1 of the 2/3 rounds) or restart. This is after a TO confirms it was the players fault (or if the player is generous enough to admit it was his fault).

You can't just get up in the middle of a match and expect it to go by like its nothing. This is why we have button checks, to test for lag and your controller. Unfortunate shit happens indeed, but its a tournament so tough it out.
 
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PLAYING TO WIN

Noob
Mikemetroid said:
The rule is that its up the opposing player if he would rather take the round (meaning 1 of the 2/3 rounds) or restart. This is after a TO confirms it was the players fault (or if the player is generous enough to admit it was his fault).

You can't just get up in the middle of a match and expect it to go by like its nothing. This is why we have button checks, to test for lag and your controller. Unfortunate shit happens indeed, but its a tournament so tough it out.
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There are no rounds in injustice.
 
roosTakk

roosTakk

Chode Juggler
JDM said:
Sacrifice your time into going to tournaments, being financially dependent on tournaments and get BSed out of a win and tell me you wouldn't get pissed.
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He didn't get BSed out of a win....he dropped his controller, got bodied, then acted like a child. Even if he did get "BSed out of a win", that does not give you the right to act like a little kid who didn't get his way. Well I guess it does, but it shows how immature he is
 
sinosleep

sinosleep

Noob
KDZ proved what you can do when the chips are down when he was on tournament life against Zyphox and SonicFox back to back and pulled it out. Being down 1 - 0 isn't the end of the world, he could have made a come back.
 
ColdBoreMK23

ColdBoreMK23

Noob Saibot
I just find it funny that people talk shit about P2W, Pig, Wound, and ForeverKing for not making top 8 yet people defend this guy.

Shock Tsung should have soul stealed PL's ass...
 
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Sami

Noob
The biggest WTF is why any wireless controllers were allowed, battery out or not. I thought these things had been outright 100% banned years ago.

edit: I'm assuming that with the cable they still connect wirelessly. So you don't get people desyncing/unbinding/whatever it's called from the machines (or connecting to someone else's match) after they've walked off but it can still happen during a match.

P2W said:
Perfect legend was USING A WIRELESS 360 CONTROLLER (interesting Bc on his twitter he claimed he could of had king d/q'ed for using a wireless controller). Carls controller was on player 1 and the corresponding light on his controller was lit up and using nrs tester.
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Nope, looks like he was fine: http://www.finalround.org/rules.cfm

"WIRELESS CONTROLLERS ARE NOT ALLOWED UNLESS YOU TAKE OUT THE BATTERY" (caps theirs)
 
Jimmypotato

Jimmypotato

Mid Tier
aldazo said:
A simple rule could be if you have the lead and hit the pause button then the match is restarted, so you lose the advantage but not the round/game; if you don't have the lead and hit the pause button the you lose that round; now because IGAU has no rounds then the match is restarted, the oponent takes your first life bar, then wait to the timer to be set at the same time when the pause happened, and start the fight.
Edit: I forgot meter, if you have the lead then the match is restarted but the other player has the right to build 50% from start...well, thinking about it, we should consider how great is the lead advantage before the pause and other things, but I think it is worth; it punished the player that pause while taking in consideration the circunstances during the fight, instead of a blind rule.
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This is not a good way to do things, because you can't police this on every station. And you run into other problems.

In fighting games the clock is also a factor, so while you are building up your 50% of meter you are losing clock time,

And honestly, this is an honest question, what do you do if people start pausing on purpose when they have the lead??

The rules are clearly stated for each game you sign up and register for tournys. And they are there for a reason,

If I remember correctly not too long ago @FOREVER KING accidentally paused during tourny, he took the loss like a man and kept on fighting.

He showed the way a top player should act when things like this happen. And Karma rewarded him for it. And then we saw how an Evo champ acts when something like this happens to him.

I've said enough.
 
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ProudDisciple

ProudDisciple

Average at Best
Art said:
You know I think King had something to do with it. It was a bit too obvious as PL quit and King was handed off a wad of cash after the fact. With King's shit-eating grin it looked as though there may have been some sort of "underhandedness" going down that may have caused the game to pause. I'm sorry but faces never lie!
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There should be a dislike button on TYM precisely for comments like this.
 
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