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Injustice: Gods Among Us - Bane & Lex Luthor Confirmed

King Roosta

The Duke of the Donk
I don't know if they should dominate the roster, but it's no surprise that they do seem to. Fact is, any company's #1 goal is to make money. They do this by giving people what they want. How do people tellt hem what they want? With dollars. Batman movies, no matter how shitty they are, make huge bank. Harley Quinn was so popular when she was introduced in the cartoon that she was made a part of the books as DC realized there was another bankable property there.

And don't forget guys, we don't have a full roster reveal yet. They're mainly revealing characters that will make gamers and comic fans alike save their pennies to buy this game. My only concern is, they aren't leaving many major characters for DLC. I would have liked to see Bane as DLC simply because people that haven't bought the game already will buy the game just to download him. Then agaian, judging by MK, NRS does't seem to be overly big on DLC.


I bought MvC just for She Hulk and even then I waited until I could buy it used for $15 :p People buy games for a myriad of reasons. Sometimes it's more who they want to beat up than who they want to play or simply to pretend that they are involved in the comics they know and love. Either way, Injustice is going to sell huge and everyone is going to love it.
See? This is how you argue a point. He disagrees without being a sarcastic dbag. BTdubs, these are all valid points.
 

Compbros

Man of Tomorrow
They're not picking characters based on who's comic needs a sales bump.


Yes they will. That's why they're in the game. It's pretty much my whole point. They're picking characters that will make the game sell.


I think you missed the point here.


You don't have to get so frustrated that you turn to sarcasm.

Shouldn't they be? The game will sell with a handful of big names regardless of how many a crammed in. Missing out on a potential, just throwing a number out there, 50,000 game sells to gain even a mere 5,000 people that will buy monthly, 4 dollar comics to series or characters they didn't know a thing about seems better. You sell the game by getting a lot of popular characters but you also need a number of obscure ones so people will gain interest in them. Every character announced is a "popular" one with 7 being Batman, 2 being Superman, 1 being Wonder Woman, 1 being Green Lantern, 1 being Flash, 2 Teen Titans and Grundy who can go any way.


See my previous paragraph and points.


I must have, you're saying they need several big names and I'm saying they don't all need to be Batman.


That's not sarcasm, it's a legit point: They recapped the first 3 games of MK and included practically every character from the first 3 games in the roster. There was hardly "choice" there.


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for god's sake companies like money. bane and joker will get them money. there's nothing else to argue about

Money long term from people getting interested in lesser characters is better than a flash in the pan 60 bucks that they may not even get thanks to used sales.

See? This is how you argue a point. He disagrees without being a sarcastic dbag. BTdubs, these are all valid points.
Was this directed at me? My points are valid and I've said before that I can come off as a jerk when getting my points across.
 

LaidbackOne

Scrubby nice guy
The second I saw the news i started praying "please dont let them fuck up bane like they did in Arkham City or Dark Knight". Netherrealm didnt disappoint me <3
 
You have got to be the troll, tell me exactly what about Jason Todd is seriously one of the worst characters I've ever seen. Please tell me one thing that makes him stand out? Also by saying the universe of Batman in general is shitty seriously tells me everything I need to know I guess. God damn Marvel fan boys...
Well, Timmy - pay attention at the topic we're talking about.

I'm not talking about the writing of Joker and Jason Todd, but about their entire character. One example would be Superboy-Prime, who is a terrible character to begin with, but in the end of the day even the writing around him sucked major ass.
The same applies for the Joker.
He is a skinny ass man, who is protected by the plot, just the way Batman is empowered by the plot. That's the only reason these two characters still exist after so many adventures. Batman is gay for the Joker and so is everyone else, so they don't go out and harm him.

Jason Todd wants to kill the Joker, Batman helps the Joker.
Nightwing (a fairly good character) kills the Joker, Batman uses his Batgodpowers and resurrects the Joker.
Batman catches the Joker and puts him into Arkham, but the Joker breaks out and kills some more people until he gets caught again.
Not even the police is going out to capture the Joker, since he is "insane" and you have to deal differently with "insane" people, aight. Plot, stupid ass plot.

Your favorite character is a fucking lie and you should know that, if you consider yourself a smart person.

Jason Todd on the other hand ... clearly raped by DC's BAD ... BAD BAD BAD writing (not saying that Marvel doesn't have bad writers either), ...
... Jason Todd is still better as the idea of a character. Or at least that what he has become: The Red Hood. He is a vigilante, an outlaw who goes out and kills people who deserve the punishment.
Obviously the entire backstory of his is bullshit multiplied by 10, but it doesn't change the fact that he is a good character, who actually does something, while the Joker gets fanboyished as much as Superman by the DC writers.

And hey, Marvel has the Punisher, who is for the most part a pretty one-dimensional character. You wouldn't consider him a good character, but he is a good character, because he has his purpose, if you understand that by now. Or at least my way of seeing it.

considering you just tried talking down in one of the few characters who is considered to be one of the greatest villains in comic book history id say youre the troll
If someone honestly thinks that the Joker is a great villain, then that person clearly doesn't know shit about comics.
That great villain can only exist in DC, or to be more exact the Batman universe.

Put the Joker in the Marvel universe and he will die on the very first day, because he won't be protected by the stupidity of the other people in the universe (which is called the plot, if we twist it around).
 

Reedoms

Noob
Put the Joker in the Marvel universe and he will die on the very first day, because he won't be protected by the stupidity of the other people in the universe (which is called the plot, if we twist it around).
Norman Osborn has done loads worse than Joker and he's still alive and kicking.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Clayface is the character they need to reveal next in order to piss EVERYONE off. Batman universe and a mimic, L.O.L
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Put the Joker in the Marvel universe and he will die on the very first day, because he won't be protected by the stupidity of the other people in the universe (which is called the plot, if we twist it around).
Oh yeah, because Magneto (mutant Hitler) was put down years ago.

Edit: The criminal failure of serial villainy is just that, it always goes unpunished. Your complaints about Joker can be leveled at any villain thats ever been defeated and not killed in the entire history of fiction.
 

trufenix

bye felicia
Nah cuz there's popular non-Batman people.
Okay, but there ARE popular Batman characters too. That's the point. This thread proves that for every one of you who has a laundry list of deserving characters no one else has heard of, there are three or four people absolutely stoked for more Batman characters.
 

Compbros

Man of Tomorrow
Okay, but there ARE popular Batman characters too. That's the point. This thread proves that for every one of you who has a laundry list of deserving characters no one else has heard of, there are three or four people absolutely stoked for more Batman characters.

That's not my point, my point is there are tons of people more popular than Bane, Quinn or Catwoman that have yet to be announced. There's popular characters and fan favorites throughout the DCU that is not of the Batman Universe yet the reveals are dominated with Bat people.
 
That's not my point, my point is there are tons of people more popular than Bane, Quinn or Catwoman that have yet to be announced. There's popular characters and fan favorites throughout the DCU that is not of the Batman Universe yet the reveals are dominated with Bat people.
My point yesterday totally flew over your head I see.

Everyone, including you, is obsessed with BAT this and BAT that, ignoring that the MK guys are going after certain archtypes that they have always been good at doing. Doesn't mean they should, they just are and you shouldn't be surprised by it. The best trained and most popular ninja martial artists in DC? Bat family. Bar none.

Name more popular characters that fit these MK archtypes, not just "I like this person and this person more, they should be in."
 

Compbros

Man of Tomorrow
My point yesterday totally flew over your head I see.

Everyone, including you, is obsessed with BAT this and BAT that, ignoring that the MK guys are going after certain archtypes that they have always been good at doing. Doesn't mean they should, they just are and you shouldn't be surprised by it. The best and most popular ninja martial artists in DC? Bat family. Bar none.

Name more popular characters that fit these MK archtypes, not just "I like this person and this person more, they should be in."
Two grapplers in this game say otherwise. The MK crew has NEVER done this well but there's two, and a possible third in Doomsday, that will be this way. So that theory is just out the window. Plus, just because they make a game full of martial artists doesn't mean when they make their superhero game they should stick to the martial artists, that's just dumb. No offense.

And my point keeps flying over your head or you're just lumping me in with others. It's not about who I want in, it's about not dominating the game with a series' characters just because it's popular. Also, how does Bane fit into this "archetype"? How does Quinn when she's not a martial artist? This is a ridiculous argument....again, no offense.


Edit: To further my point.

Why is Catwoman in over Cheetah despite them both having cat gimmicks and good in hand to hand combat? Despite, more than likely, having a very similar moveset Catwoman is in just because she's from that Batman Universe.
 
Two grapplers in this game say otherwise. The MK crew has NEVER done this well but there's two, and a possible third in Doomsday, that will be this way.
So Sheeva wasn't a proto-grappler just because they didn't do a good job? Admit it, they tried the archtype and failed at it, big time, but they did try.

And as far as Joker/Harley/Catwoman goes, they were in the previous DC game, and the MK guys LOVE to recycle old resources into new games. So they fit into the recolored ninja archtype somewhat as well. Plus, why replace them with a new character when those characters have their fans already?

Plus, just because they make a game full of martial artists doesn't mean when they make their superhero game they should stick to the martial artists, that's just dumb. No offense.
Just admit you hate Bat characters instead of wanting the MK guys to abandon their cheesy love of ninjas and cyborgs. Because that's why I love those guys and don't want them to stop doing things their way.

There are many more character reveals on the way, so don't sweat it.
 

Compbros

Man of Tomorrow
So Sheeva wasn't a proto-grappler just because they didn't do a good job? Admit it, they tried the archtype and failed at it, big time, but they did try.

And as far as Joker/Harley goes, they were in the previous DC game, and the MK guys LOVE to recycle old resources into new games. So they fit into the recolored ninja archtype somewhat as well.

Just admit you hate Bat characters instead of wanting the MK guys to abandon their cheesy love of ninjas and cyborgs. Because that's why I love those guys and don't want them to stop doing things their way.

I wouldn't even call Sheeva a grappler, that's how bad they are at grapplers. Look at grapplers in any other competent fighter then look at MK grapplers, it's awful.


Harley was not, she was in development for DLC but never made it to be fair. These people look to play quite different than MKvsDC: Just look at Supes, Bats or WW and see the difference. They do like to rehash, as do a ton of other fighting game companies, however that's not grounds to accept the over abundance of Bat people.

I don't like Batman, when have I ever said that I do or tried to say that I didn't? But I understand the need to put characters from a popular series in. However, a fourth of the cast being Bat people is beyond ridiculous when, again, people from other series could've replaced them and very little would be lost: Cheetah instead of Catwoman, Grodd instead of Bane, Joker OR Quinn. You see? This keeps the same "reskin" but doesn't give us a half dozen Batman people with 15 announced characters.


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I love Superman and the Superman Universe but if the announced cast of 15 had Superman, Supergirl, Lex Luthor, Zod, Doomsday and Toyman I'd say "not all those people are needed". It's a ridiculous amount of characters for a roster of that size.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
So Sheeva wasn't a proto-grappler just because they didn't do a good job? Admit it, they tried the archtype and failed at it, big time, but they did try.

And as far as Joker/Harley/Catwoman goes, they were in the previous DC game, and the MK guys LOVE to recycle old resources into new games. So they fit into the recolored ninja archtype somewhat as well. Plus, why replace them with a new character when those characters have their fans already?



Just admit you hate Bat characters instead of wanting the MK guys to abandon their cheesy love of ninjas and cyborgs. Because that's why I love those guys and don't want them to stop doing things their way.

There are many more character reveals on the way, so don't sweat it.
Honestly, there is still TEN more reveals on the way, I dont know why people are getting so up in arms about this. You may think a choice is cool, others may think its dumb. Deal with it, its a video game.
 
Let me just add Compbros. that I would very much like to see Grodd in the game, that's a great choice. I rather have him over Doomsday if those two are who it will come down to.

Grodd could add a touch of humor, despite being so serious, that would fit really well with the MK sensibility.