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16 Bit

16 Bit

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If you block expecting uppercut you open yourself up to wakeup command grab. You risk being put in his insane KD game just to punish his invincible wakeup lol

Plus even when you're right you have to guess between uppercut and MB uppercut.

And let's not forget wakeup backdash.
 
Zyphox

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
GGA 16 Bit said:
If you block expecting uppercut you open yourself up to wakeup command grab. You risk being put in his insane KD game just to punish his invincible wakeup lol

Plus even when you're right you have to guess between uppercut and MB uppercut.

And let's not forget wakeup backdash.
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thats why im saying condition bane to back dash and/or wake up uppercut, once you blow up a wake up command grab or uppercut once or twice it should alert the player to do something else. flash can punish both uppercuts on block as long as its not delayed MB. a delayed MB just means i get 21 after wards, if bane hits a button i beat it, if they block then i have pressure if they backdash then thats ok too, you can OS select LC to blow up all the options (except uppercut for less damage. not saying you don't have to guess, but these are options flash has once you knock down bane. tap that inner yomi, if you think venom uppercut then don't pressure on wake up, anything else? pressure.

HoneyBee said:
I've never seen that done before. If you could post a video on that, it would be great. I think if what you're saying is true and works consistently, the MU would be even more favorable for Flash. I'll test that out when I get home tonight.
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i've done it to Grr in casuals trying to wake up double punch and command grab, thats why he always wakes up with MB uppercut lol i just wish MB uppercut didn't have an option to delay, it would make the MU super hard for bane players :)
 
IMakeItL00kC00L

IMakeItL00kC00L

Do not provoke a god
General M2Dave said:
I am not yet 100% sold. Zatanna's zoning is overrated, and if she spends meter on MB teleport to run away, she has none for the vortex.
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I would ask zatanna players if they need the vortex in that mu? I know as a sinestro player i prefer to always send bane full screen unless im down in the life lead, but it differs from player to player and from character to character. @Zatanna players how useful is Z's trait against bane?
 
Zyphox

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
@HoneyBee just tested 32 LC double dash twice 21 beats all wake ups except uppercut, if blocked at point blank range ducking you can MB f3 into trait to blow up MB venom uppercut and regular Uppercut unless he level 3 venom, i tested it recording bane with trait active and wake up coming out. its the PC version of the game im playing on, i will try to record what i have here with fraps later tonight. so if you yomi bane you can blow up all his wake ups, will test if bane can backdash by recording flash doing the tech and me trying to backdash it now, will update this post to see if he can, look likes 21 is a meaty tho.


EDIT @HoneyBee okay the timing is way more strict than i thought it would be, it looks like the 21 has to be earlier then was a double dash allows unless you are perfect with enough gravity to beat a traited wake up double punch. command grab gets beat everytime even if you mis time slightly, the combo i use it a trait combo ending in 32 LC but when i do not traited combo the timing feels off. i will say this bane would be free AF if his armor didn't slow down physical moves on hit (why is that even in the game lmao) i can imagine catwoman standing 3 is faster that standing 2 could be a lot more useful in this situation. there are very few frames between invincibility and armor for double punch start up where you can get it off cleanly everytime (which is retarded, stupid ass armor slowing down my punches) after testing it more i feel a lot better just dashing once and timing it then dashing twice.
 
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GGA Max

GGA Max

Well-Known Member
General M2Dave said:
I get the following impression reading Bane players' posts.

Unless Bane...

1) closes the gap for free
2) dominates the opponent in footsies
3) ignores every single wake up attack from the opponent

...the match is apparently too hard.

Too bad Dizzy never cared about Injustice to use Bane. Someone with his patience and mid range game would have brought out the best in the character.

The point is, I highly doubt Sinestro and Zatanna are these incredibly difficult match ups.
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Its too bad Dizzy didn't play ANY character seriously, he'd be godlike for everyone. Don't bash my community, dude.
Or I could ..."What if R.E.O. was playing Zod"... -_-

I can't speak for every Bane player, but I actually agree with your criticisms. And for the record, I haven't played Wound more than 20 games offline, so if @Blind_Ducky is saying Bane does fine, I trust him as he gets more games than me.

Also Zatanna, I've played @deg222 less than 10 games offline. I prefer not to have an opinion. Everyone is screaming that she wins. And deg beat me, I don't have much I can say except it's not played enough. You could be right.

All it looks like to me is that these MU's haven't been played at the highest level enough, so there are rumors going around about them....The game simply needs to be played more.

And yes, I say that knowing how much I have complained about these 2.
 
Jim

Jim

Emperor of the Moon
Zyphox said:
@HoneyBee i will say this bane would be free AF if his armor didn't slow down physical moves on hit (why is that even in the game lmao) ... (which is retarded, stupid ass armor slowing down my punches)
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Game treats armor like block in most cases. That is why you can't mbLK through armor and why mbLC doesn't instantly break armor. If these didn't happen armor would mean literally nothing to Flash.
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
General M2Dave said:
I get the following impression reading Bane players' posts.

Unless Bane...

1) closes the gap for free
2) dominates the opponent in footsies
3) ignores every single wake up attack from the opponent

...the match is apparently too hard.

Too bad Dizzy never cared about Injustice to use Bane. Someone with his patience and mid range game would have brought out the best in the character.

The point is, I highly doubt Sinestro and Zatanna are these incredibly difficult match ups.
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Zatanna fits all of those and is our worst MU...
So that's accurate. She doesn't need meter for MB teleport, because its 24 frames before we can dash and attack, she only needs 17 of those to run away.
 
Ra Helios

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
WoundCowboy said:
Wrong. I cannot punish catdash or stop her from jumping all over the place online. I used to think CW was decent back when I played with Starcharger more. But after I learned more about the MU and played it offline, I am 100% certain that she gets away with garbage online. If you don't believe me, I don't know what to tell you.
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I dont. Catdash is easy to punish offline. You chose not to do it. Playing others sinestros they can easly d2 me. So dont give me that.
 
Shaazzyam

Shaazzyam

undefeated online evo champion
GGA 16 Bit said:
If you block expecting uppercut you open yourself up to wakeup command grab. You risk being put in his insane KD game just to punish his invincible wakeup lol

Plus even when you're right you have to guess between uppercut and MB uppercut.

And let's not forget wakeup backdash.
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If he gets hit with wakeup uppercut 4 times in a row, it still wouldn't rival the damage should Flash get a clean stuff one single time.

Bane be sweating on KD.
 
Slips

Slips

Feared by dragons. Desired by virgins.
Ra Helios said:
i disagree from what I experience they don't. Lex trait and wonderwoman otg vortex me the most. You can deal with killer frost and other characters. Most of the time when a high quality player play me I always have trait out. That is not going to work most of the time for free
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I mean, from what cavemen experienced the world was flat but that *gasp* wasn't true. I'm not talking about an otg vortex. You literally aren't even comprehending what I'm talking about, so I'll try and explain.

The world is round. It's soooo big we can't even tell with the naked eye.

Thankfully Ra Helios most people aren't like you and are able to understand what is being said to them. It became a well known fact the earth was actually round and Ferdinand Magellan was the first to sail around the world in order to prove this theory to be true.

Crazy right? Hopefully this lesson in history will help you realize Catwoman has big problems in the offline world that you don't experience in your cave.
 
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Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Shaazzyam said:
If he gets hit with wakeup uppercut 4 times in a row, it still wouldn't rival the damage should Flash get a clean stuff one single time.

Bane be sweating on KD.
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Assuming he doesn't take the whole lifebar in his venom cycle since landing the wake-up uppercut means Flash is in the blender (and has as much trouble as anyone else), then yeah 4 non-venomed VU doesn't equal out to one 52% combo.
 
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