Living Injustice Tier List

[Pig Of The Hut]

AK Pig Of The Hut has just done some serious damage to every Doomsday mu.

Let's commence the mopping next weekend

 

[Relaxedstate]

cyborg players...... i say its only 6-4 ares, but wins against those guys might say otherwise. I can go all day about the Mu but ares def has alot of shit for that character.

Cyborg player(s)? lol
Regardless, our recent games actually make me want to make it 5-5, even though I still think Cyborg is disadvantaged, it is only slightly.
Noob Cyborgs will get blown-up because Cyborg has to work overtime, but if his execution is there, and by there I mean flawless, it's a 5-5 or 4-6 MU

 

[Relaxedstate]

Well...if cyborg loses to arid 3-7 then how does Grundy only lose 4-6 to cyborg? Who's numbers did you use anyways?

Cyborg might beat Grundy 8-2. Probably loses only 4-6 to Ares. Many of the MU numbers got partially mixed up, although I don't think Tyrant ever weighed in

 

[G4S Silent Jay]

Well you can reversal punish if you guess right, and if you play against Shazam often the timing shouldn't be too hard to get down.
That said, you can't punish if he does the torpedo from that setup and with the grabs it is a guessing game that rewards Shazam a hell of a lot more than it does the opponent, especially if the Shazam player has good reads.



Also rev0lver and Kiko : Thanks for helping me understand the WW matchup a little bit better. I may have to approach this matchup a bit differently in the future.

And rewards Shazam even more if he has trait active where the numbers are getting to about 50% damage for guessing correctly.

But I'll be honest, I still have issues with the timing. And As I was just discussing with ISF_AWG_Indecisive and a MB Torpedo is safe, and if it hits, puts the other play right back in a guessing game.

 

[Fromundaman]

And rewards Shazam even more if he has trait active where the numbers are getting to about 50% damage for guessing correctly.

But I'll be honest, I still have issues with the timing. And As I was just discussing with ISF_AWG_Indecisive and a MB Torpedo is safe, and if it hits, puts the other play right back in a guessing game.

I'm not sure what you mean. You can't MB torpedo unless it hits, and normal torpedo isn't safe on block, unless it's done from point blank like off of 22. Was that what you meant?

But yeah, thankfully Shazam still does have the risk/reward on his blockstrings skewed in his favor, but thank god he does. He's still more punishable off of his mixup for guessing wrong than most characters.

 

[G4S Silent Jay]

I'm not sure what you mean. You can't MB torpedo unless it hits, and normal torpedo isn't safe on block, unless it's done from point blank like off of 22. Was that what you meant?

But yeah, thankfully Shazam still does have the risk/reward on his blockstrings skewed in his favor, but thank god he does. He's still more punishable off of his mixup for guessing wrong than most characters.

Yes. I meant that if it's blocked, that distance is a safe option, and if it hits, you can MB for it to put them right back in a guessing game.

 

[Creakyaxe386]

Why is joker all the way at the bottom

 

[Eldriken]

Why is joker all the way at the bottom

To put it simply: It's where he belongs.

 

[Fromundaman]

To put it simply: It's where he belongs.

Y'all don't even know...

 

[Eldriken]

Y'all don't even know...

Sure I do. I put him there all the time. >=D

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

9. Batgirl - 156 - SonicFox

 

[Pan1cMode]

That's actually pretty accurate tbh. Although BG goes even with both frost and Harley (so add 2 points there) and goes 6-4 with Shazam, so take a point away there. You end up with BG being about 157, so tied 8th with BA. What people don't realise is BG has a heap of even MUs and a couple of 6-4 MUs. While she only loses 1-3, she doesn't really beat anyone 7-3.

 

[Doombawkz]

Bane not even top 15.
Told you guys you were upplaying.

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

That's actually pretty accurate tbh. Although BG goes even with both frost and Harley (so add 2 points there) and goes 6-4 with Shazam, so take a point away there. You end up with BG being about 157, so tied 8th with BA. What people don't realise is BG has a heap of even MUs and a couple of 6-4 MUs. While she only loses 1-3, she doesn't really beat anyone 7-3.

I don't care about tier lists applying to the top 100 players in the world. I care about the ones that apply to playing the average person online. On that tier list, batgirl is well above 9. Vortex aside, the bitch has tools.

Not saying I don't play with a few tournament worthy people, but to be honest, most of these tier lists don't make a huge amount of difference with most people that play regularly. Anything below a 7-3/3-7 doesn't matter to the slightly above average player. On that note, fuck Aquaman.

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

Bane not even top 15.
Told you guys you were upplaying.

Keep your sig, because your avatar changes too often for me to recognize you on the fly.

 

[Cossner]

I don't care about tier lists applying to the top 100 players in the world. I care about the ones that apply to playing the average person online. On that tier list, batgirl is well above 9. Vortex aside, the bitch has tools.

Not saying I don't play with a few tournament worthy people, but to be honest, most of these tier lists don't make a huge amount of difference with most people that play regularly. Anything below a 7-3/3-7 doesn't matter to the slightly above average player. On that note, fuck Aquaman.

Then Hawkgirl would 10-0 everyone, and Green Arrow would be top tier.
Average players don't care about learning match ups lol.

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

Hence why I said above average. While I'm not terribly good at the game, I have to say I'm above average for the average fighting game player, which is a button mashing fuckwad that plays the game casually for about 2 months. I'm referring to the average TYM viewer. We're good enough to learn matchups, tech, shenanigans, and maximize combo damage, but we aren't good enough to show up to a tournament and not get our feelings hurt for being called a day 1 scrub. We are the average... We are TYM....

 

[Cossner]

Hence why I said above average. While I'm not terribly good at the game, I have to say I'm above average for the average fighting game player, which is a button mashing fuckwad that plays the game casually for about 2 months. I'm referring to the average TYM viewer. We're good enough to learn matchups, tech, shenanigans, and maximize combo damage, but we aren't good enough to show up to a tournament and not get our feelings hurt for being called a day 1 scrub. We are the average... We are TYM....

That sounds like an inaccurate tier list.

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

That sounds like an inaccurate tier list.

I guess it depends what you want out of a tier list. MK9 had a couple different accurate tier lists, but each represented different things. Offline, online, etc. The point I'm making is that offline tournament tier lists apply to about...... 1% of us. This leads to droves of Aquaman and MMH players online that only know 2 strings and no oki/setups.

 

[Cossner]

I guess it depends what you want out of a tier list. MK9 had a couple different accurate tier lists, but each represented different things. Offline, online, etc. The point I'm making is that offline tournament tier lists apply to about...... 1% of us. This leads to droves of Aquaman and MMH players online that only know 2 strings and no oki/setups.

Tier lists apply to characters, not to the people who use them.

 

[JDM]

That's actually pretty accurate tbh. Although BG goes even with both frost and Harley (so add 2 points there) and goes 6-4 with Shazam, so take a point away there. You end up with BG being about 157, so tied 8th with BA. What people don't realise is BG has a heap of even MUs and a couple of 6-4 MUs. While she only loses 1-3, she doesn't really beat anyone 7-3.

lol no. Dat Downplay.

 

[Ray'sGoodLiquor]

Tier lists apply to characters, not to the people who use them.

In that case, tier lists are absolutely useless to this community, outside of 20-30 people.

 

[SonicBoomBrad]

This list is old as fuck and really bad, I have no idea why you guys are commenting on this.

 

[Cossner]

In that case, tier lists are absolutely useless to this community, outside of 20-30 people.

That makes no sense. Every argument you've made makes no sense. You're saying tier lists made by people who don't know how to play the game are as valid as those made by the ones who do.

 

[Doombawkz]

This list is old as fuck and really bad, I have no idea why you guys are commenting on this.

Because people need to atone for their sins. This thread is one of them