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Spinky

Spinky

Neutral Skipper
Sooo I've barely touched WW and I've only run into no more than two since release; why does everyone say she's so good?
 
Akae47

Akae47

Noob
I started playing more offline injustice matches. I may start venturing into the tourney scene if work permits.


Spinky said:
Sooo I've barely touched WW and I've only run into no more than two since release; why does everyone say she's so good?
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To keep it simple
  • She has the toolset to get in on a opponent and also to keep opponent out.
  • She has a +40% BNB meterless combos in Lasso, can get 49-50+% one meter trait combo
  • She is one of the few who can deal with Superman's eye laser shenanigans effectively because her Lasso Stance's parry.
  • High mobility
  • Great d2 for AA its debatable to say only Aquamans d2 is better.
  • A very good high/low mixup game off a knockdown. Oppressive if you have someone cornered.
 
JokeStroke

JokeStroke

Noob
Eagle Eye said:
do you guys think her d1 is plus on block. like her d12 might be negative but what about her d1?
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Her d1 and d12 are definitely negative on block. Best way to test is to set AI to block all and jump in training if they jump first after blocking the move they are + frames. I have tested it.
 
NRF CharlieMurphy

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
Spinky said:
Sooo I've barely touched WW and I've only run into no more than two since release; why does everyone say she's so good?
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Because she has the best all around toolset to deal with every character in the game.
She may not win matches 7-3 .... but she doesn't lose any matches..... and if she does it isn't any worse than a 4.5 - 5.5

She is that good. You have to be a good player to use her...... and you have to fight her offline to truly understand why she is so good.
If you're fighting an online WW.... you're only seeing about 60% of what she is truly capable of.
 
Eagle Eye

Eagle Eye

I Seek To Depose!
what is the ration of deaths that you get when playing ww from a projectile to a combo. my ratio is 1000 to 2. arent you just sick of losing to this bs
 
Akae47

Akae47

Noob
Eagle Eye said:
how many times do you lose to a projectile compared to dying from a combo.
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oh that... TBH I dont really know, I dont pay attention to that. For me its the fact that I lost and how I lost over counting what finishes me between a projectile or combo.

But I can tell you the number of rage quits, hatemail, 1v1 declines/duckings, KOTH bitchassness I get every time I play this game lol. The numerous Superman/Aqua/GL/Batman counterpicks that fail which lead to people call me " >>insert insult<<" on the mic online because I'm used and rarely lose to the same wash/rise/repeat tactics that most online Supes/Aqua/GL/Batman players do thinking its a counter.. The Reckless J2 from Bats that gets d2'd or b2'd.. The Superman Lasers that get parried and punished... The Aqua Yolo overheads and low scoops that gets whiffed punish along with the baited traits... And Lastly the always entertaining waiting, baiting and punishing GL's Lantern's Might...

In conclusion the ratio of me getting rage quitted on, insulted, Hate mailed, avoided is roughly 6 out of every 10 people.
So thats 3:5 lol
 
Eagle Eye

Eagle Eye

I Seek To Depose!
d you guys think her walk speed in the game is slow. because if you play the demo, ww was fast as heck in it compared to the final build
 
Crazykitana

Crazykitana

Noob
Eagle Eye said:
d you guys think her walk speed in the game is slow. because if you play the demo, ww was fast as heck in it compared to the final build
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i really dont get why people are so concerned about walk speed.
a buff to walk speed will turn this game into a turtle fest and will negate certain mix ups on block as people could just walk back all day long.
makes me laugh when people compare walk speed in this game to mk9 where there's a dedicated block button so movement is not safe.
where as here its back to block walk speeds are slow in this game and AE for a reason.
a buff to walk speeds will only help make zoning even more of a problem.
 
Eagle Eye

Eagle Eye

I Seek To Depose!
Crazykitana said:
i really dont get why people are so concerned about walk speed.
a buff to walk speed will turn this game into a turtle fest and will negate certain mix ups on block as people could just walk back all day long.
makes me laugh when people compare walk speed in this game to mk9 where there's a dedicated block button so movement is not safe.
where as here its back to block walk speeds are slow in this game and AE for a reason.
a buff to walk speeds will only help make zoning even more of a problem.
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i never said they needed a buff. i only asked a question. all you had to do was answer yes or no. and i never said nothing about mk9
 
Eagle Eye

Eagle Eye

I Seek To Depose!
i am so sick and tired of the amount of running away i have to deal with. why is that ww has slow normals. i cant dash up and do anything like supes bats or gl can. its confusing to see people say ww doesnt need anything buffs. the b1 into 33 should be a true frame trap. im telling you guys now. once people learn how to fight ww. she gonna be hard a heck to use.
 
Drizzle

Drizzle

Jump and shoot.
Nobody can dash up and do anything because it isn't hard to react with d1 at the very least. You may be able to get away with that now but definitely not in the future once people get better at it. If you watch Rico play, he checks dashes with d1 xx lightning hands almost every time. There's a reason why the best characters all have advancing normals with great range that lead to combos on hit. I would put b1 in this category even though it's not as fast as the others (and it shouldn't be).
 
Crazykitana

Crazykitana

Noob
Eagle Eye said:
i am so sick and tired of the amount of running away i have to deal with. why is that ww has slow normals. i cant dash up and do anything like supes bats or gl can. its confusing to see people say ww doesnt need anything buffs. the b1 into 33 should be a true frame trap. im telling you guys now. once people learn how to fight ww. she gonna be hard a heck to use.
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i could not agree more with you its so easy to lame her out it s not funny.
the real skill when using her comes with learning how to get in with her.
people are quick to call her top 5 because they dont really know how she works or the match up.
the sad thing is the only thing shes has to make you respect her or keep you close to her may get nerfed.
which is her so called otg which can be blocked anyway so don't see why people are so worried about it.
i think shes slightly over rated and as people are now staring to learn the match ups things will be quite hard as certain people are finding out now.
 
Eagle Eye

Eagle Eye

I Seek To Depose!
Drizzle said:
Nobody can dash up and do anything because it isn't hard to react with d1 at the very least. You may be able to get away with that now but definitely not in the future once people get better at it. If you watch Rico play, he checks dashes with d1 xx lightning hands almost every time. There's a reason why the best characters all have advancing normals with great range that lead to combos on hit. I would put b1 in this category even though it's not as fast as the others (and it shouldn't be).
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that doesnt help at all. with the crazy amount of zoning in this game its not fair that we get slow normals and fake frame traps. which makes it harder to fight certain characters. i just find it unfair that we have to put in work with our character but others have to do so little and get high rewards. but i personally believe her b1 into 33 should be a true frame. once people learn you can d1 through that what are you going to do. d12. if blocked negative then we have to backdash. it just sucks to me. but i already know im gonna mad hate for saying this. so bring it on
 
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