Oh right, right. I forgot about that part. It's just that when he mentioned short range I thought about the ex version, and how risky it is to just throw it out there against a projectile because it basically has no benefits. It's +14 on block though and one can jail after that with D4 (11 frames), into Hell Sparks.
Those are some insane buffs lol. I was also thinking that Impostor Shinnok can have the ability to teleport in place. Just to trick the opponent or to get out of certain situations. Like if I am about to jump into Tempest Lao's ex-spin, I can just teleport in place and avoid it.Also The F224 string doesn't have enough cancel advantage frames & -18 on Block
Amulet strike doesn't do anything in its current state. I have a nice idea for Amulet Strike against Zoners & Projectiles:
one of these three options should be implemented:
1. When Shinnok Negates a Projectile, He gains Meter ... Around 20-25% Bar Meter . To discourage Zoners from carelessly throwing Projectiles and Play Smart.
2. When Shinnok Negates A Projectile. He gains 2% Health Back
3. When Shinnok Negates a Projectile. The next time Shinnok does an Amulet Strike. He throws a Fast Mid Projectile with projectile absorption properties around 10% Damage on Hit & 3% Chip Damage on Block (( 0 on Block )) .... Just like Ronin Takeda EX DF3 (( Piercing Beam )) .. but Faster
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This is a Dream Buff.
Amulet Strike can negates and stock up to three time.
One Stock usage allows Shinnok to throw a fast mid projectile at 6% damage with a new input DF1
Two Stocks usage allows Shinnok to replenish 50% Bar of Meter with new input DB3 ... or Remove %50 Bar of Meter from the Opponent with new input DF3
Three Stocks usage allows Shinnok to replenish 12% of Health with new input DF2
Show some kind of visual indicator to how many stocks Shinnok has stocked up. Example: one stock turns the hands and surround it with Purple Flames/ two stocks into orange / three stocks into red
Shinnok is allowed to throw DF1 Projectile three times if he has three stocks & and the same goes to two stocks.
one can only Dream
Doesn't he get a free command throw ? Why is that bad?
It sucks for Ferra/Torr because it is a free 19% damage throw. It's pretty good but I guess it's broken. It seems pretty good considering Impostor gains Mimicry and Air-Tricky Portal
Just noticed the 0 (( Zero )) .. does that mean it will not be cancellable ?
Yeah, but don't worry, it is just what one person on the thread wants. Plus, it would be the only D4 in the game to not cancel into anything if they do place 0 cancel frames into D4 :/
if they gave it 0 cancel frames, D4 should be neutral on block from -4
Actually most of the 40 changes are Buffs to Necromancer & Amulet Strike.reading this gave me a headache, why do you want to change 40 things about this character? there's actual conjecture about changing the cancel properties of D4? what the fuck?
Let's make him a giant robot that shoots lasers from the moon!
That would be cool trait for Amulet Strike. but unfortunately we ended up with a shitty useless move
It's just the collected thoughts of people who decided to respond to this thread (whether they main Shinnok/hate Shinnok). All of these changes do not necessarily reflect the overall opinion of every Shinnok player on TYM, just individuals who thought it would be nice to share their thought on a change(s) that should be implemented into Shinnok. Anyone can contribute, no matter how ridiculous the change sounds. I just organized it all into the main post so that any visitors can see all of the thoughts organized into one big list, and so they are able to easily spot Nerfs and Buffs.reading this gave me a headache, why do you want to change 40 things about this character? there's actual conjecture about changing the cancel properties of D4? what the fuck?
Let's make him a giant robot that shoots lasers from the moon!
I like the idea of an EX Tricky Portal. maybe give it armor until he touch the ground. @STB Damashi please put this on the OPImpostor should get ground tricky portals and ex ground tricky
Not that I know of, I just hope he isn't changed too much. He seems mostly fine with just a few improvements needed like the rest of the cast, he shouldn't draw too much attention
