Which character would "realistically" win a fighting tournament in "real life"?

[Komatose]

Wut question?

@Metzos I thought Lobo put a smackdown on Superman multiple times as well? Or am I remembering it wrong?

You said Doomsday was basically the only match for Superman.

 

[Metzos]

You said Doomsday was basically the only match for Superman.

Cant say about Lobo, cause i dont know much about him. Thats why i didnt answer your q.

 

[Komatose]

Cant say about Lobo, cause i dont know much about him. Thats why i didnt answer your q.

Oh. Alright.

 

[PoweredbyProtein]

Derp.

Superman gets hurt by Cheetah and Hawkgirl too.

How about you read a comic book and then come back and talk.

Did I say he didn't? Point it out for me.
Also I've referenced comics when posting. Are you unable to read?

If you even read the Justice League in the new 52 you'd know Cheetah kicked Supermans ass... and yet you use Cheetah injuring WW as some sort of proof that Superman is better, when Cheetah nearly killed Superman in one attack? ... and WW had to save Superman.

You havent read the comics, Justice Leagues or Wonder Womans, that much is clear. You have no idea what you are talking about, Cheetah is the goddess of the hunt, and bodies Superman. mkay?

Did I say Cheetah can't beat superman? Seriously, I'm waiting. And just as cheetah has beat superman (I'll take your word for it), she has beat WW. Just as they have both beat cheetah. So your point? Also aren't you the guy all about "Derp, canon doesn't matter the writers are all stupid, we do this realistically."
Ok then, stop dodging me. When does it say WW is dodging things that are as fast as the speed of light and she takes damage equivalent to all superman can do and shrug it off. I'm still waiting.

Its okay you dont understand the comics or read them, you probably have a life.

This is full of so much stupid I have to laugh. Lmao, what kind of retort is this?

 

[Lex Luthor II]

Which versions of what? Prehistoric Krypton was much older than Prehistoric earth for sure. They were trapped and fighting for a thousand years. DD was exiled and imprisoned in Earth for thousand of centuries alone. So yeah i believe DD is older than WW and, of course, Superman. Ofc DD is more experienced in fighting than WW.


Here is a scan... Read the text.

The "stupidly written comics" phrase was first told by Lex Luthor, thats why i back fired it at him in my post. Cause if we post some facts, he says" Go read some comics" and when we post some comic facts his respond is"stupidly written comics" or something like that. I presented facts from good written comics, not BS.

I didnt indicate that DD might be immune to magic. I said that we dont KNOW if DD is susceptible to magic. Luthor kept telling that DD is 100% susceptible to magic attacks without proof. From all we know he might have faced magical beings before and became immune to magical attacks. He might be susceptible, i never denied that. But even so, he can adapt during the fight and be immune from a second magic attempt in a matter of minutes. And since DD is way more experienced than WW in fighting, chopping his head or throwing him in the sun as Luthor said wont be possible. She doesnt even have the psychical strength to effectively send him to the sun ffs. DD also has way more stamina and endurance than WW. Take these things into account as well. DD can breathe in space. WW cannot IIRC. Plus, and this is taken from Wikipedia, "Edged weapons or projectiles applied with sufficient force, though, are able to pierce her skin". What i mean by that? DD's bone extractions can be used as weapons to pierce her body. He did it against Superman and he can certainly do it against WW. I believe its clear now that WW does not stand a chance against DD.

So you're saying Batman can beat the hulk by kicking him in the stomach.

And that hulk is as fast as Superman?

"And since DD is way more experienced than WW in fighting, chopping his head or throwing him in the sun as Luthor said wont be possible."
Why, given that WW is faster than Doomsday.

" I believe its clear now that WW does not stand a chance against DD."

Good for you, glad you've convinced yourself what you were convinced of all along.

 

[Metzos]

So you're saying Batman can beat the hulk by kicking him in the stomach.

And that hulk is as fast as Superman?

"And since DD is way more experienced than WW in fighting, chopping his head or throwing him in the sun as Luthor said wont be possible."
Why, given that WW is faster than Doomsday.

" I believe its clear now that WW does not stand a chance against DD."

Good for you, glad you've convinced yourself what you were convinced of all along.

DD>WW. Deal with it. You dont bring actual facts of what you are saying, i do. You keep telling that her lasso, magic and decapitation with a sword will defeat DD, i counter what you say with FACTS and then you keep saying the same stuff all over again like a broken repeater. Bottom line: You are biased as hell.

 

[Lex Luthor II]

Did I say he didn't? Point it out for me.
Also I've referenced comics when posting. Are you unable to read?


Did I say Cheetah can't beat superman? Seriously, I'm waiting. And just as cheetah has beat superman (I'll take your word for it), she has beat WW. Just as they have both beat cheetah. So your point? Also aren't you the guy all about "Derp, canon doesn't matter the writers are all stupid, we do this realistically."
Ok then, stop dodging me. When does it say WW is dodging things that are as fast as the speed of light and she takes damage equivalent to all superman can do and shrug it off. I'm still waiting.




This is full of so much stupid I have to laugh. Lmao, what kind of retort is this?

Actually no, Cheetah has not defeated current WW.

Since you didnt follow your own logic, you used Cheetah beating WW as some sort of "proof" or evidence and argument that she'd lose to Superman. Which couldnt be further from the truth, as SUPERMAN lost to Cheetah, and WW beat her.

" When does it say WW is dodging things that are as fast as the speed of light and she takes damage equivalent to all superman can do and shrug it off. I'm still waiting."

She defeated ZOOM.... while blinded. gg. she's taken nukes to the face, she regularly fights Capt Marvel [Shazam now] and gets tagged but gets right back up... And shes fought Superman several times and got smacked as hard as he could hit, times while bloodlusted as he was being mind controlled by Maxwell Lord, and she got right back up. So I guess nobody knows what you are saying, as all of your answers are in the comics. <3

s. Chopping DD's head is like saying "ok i ll just go and chop off Galactus's head or Thanos's head". Sorry, but it doesnt work like that. And since DD is more experienced than WW in a fight, even if he senses he is in danger he will avoid the attack and counter attack. Simple as that.

Except WW is faster than DD.
And how do you adapt after to magic after your limbs and head have been cut off?

And its not the same, those beings are both vastly more powerful.

DD>WW. Deal with it. You dont bring actual facts of what you are saying, i do. You keep telling that her lasso, magic and decapitation with a sword will defeat DD, i counter what you say with FACTS and then you keep saying the same stuff all over again like a broken repeater. Bottom line: You are biased as hell.

You have NO facts about him being resistant to magic.

I've brought several facts from the comics up, Mr Arrogant, go read the thread again. You just disagree with the conclusion, and thats fine, you should just calm down though, its more interesting that way <3

"DD>WW. Deal with it. "
Some people ey.

 

[Metzos]

You have NO facts about him being resistant to magic.

I've brought several facts from the comics up, Mr Arrogant, go read the thread again.

"DD>WW. Deal with it. "
Some people ey.

Learn to read plz. I never said DD is 100% resistant to magic, in any of my posts. I said we dont know if he is or not. You, on the other hand, presumed that DD is 100% weak against magic without proof. So who is the Arrogant here? And if he is not, it doesnt matter cause he wil adapt during the fight. Thats his main ability. Ooooh, so now i should go and read the comics huh? It seems that WW comics are the only legit source of info eh? You are 100% biased. Keep entertaining me.

 

[Lex Luthor II]

Learn to read plz. I never said DD is 100% resistant to magic, in any of my posts. I said we dont know if he is or not. You, on the other hand, presumed that DD is 100% weak against magic without proof. So who is the Arrogant here? And if he is not, it doesnt matter cause he wil adapt during the fight. Thats his main ability. Ooooh, so now i should go and read the comics huh? It seems that WW comics are the only legit source of info eh? You are 100% biased. Keep entertaining me.

Who is arrogant here? Go read your posts...

I'm "trolling" since I disagree, and you are right and I need to "get over it".

Since Doomsday has NEVER been shown to have ANY resistance to magic all of a sudden we are supposed to think he might have some resistance, based on nothing??? Makes sense. Or that after having his head chopped off by a faster WW he will gain some resistance and come back to win? Makes sense.

 

[Metzos]

Who is arrogant here? Go read your posts...

I'm "trolling" since I disagree, and you are right and I need to "get over it".

Since Doomsday has NEVER been shown to have ANY resistance to magic all of a sudden we are supposed to think he might have some resistance, based on nothing??? Makes sense. Or that after having his head chopped off by a faster WW he will gain some resistance and come back to win? Makes sense.

I said you are trolling cause you were saying the same shit for 15 pages despite being countered for what you said, and not by only me.

Ok, lets take your scenario and assume that DD isnt immune against magic. So fucking what? What part of "DD can adapt and heal himself within minutes during battle" you didnt get? I m not making this up, this is one of his abilities. He survived Entropy and Imperiex's attack ffs. Do you know what Entropy is? The end of time. END OF TIME. Imperiex=Galactus. What are WW's feats? Name me some noteworthy. WW faster than DD? Sure whatever you say. Give me a source that DD wasnt able to touch WW during a fight, or had a hard time against her. Just one. Let me help you.There isnt any.

And since you kept saying about the decapitation thing all this time, i can answer to you then that DD can grab WW and tear her head off, since he is psychically much stronger than her and more experienced and quicker (he is much older than her and fought for thousand of centuries) in a fight. Its like saying WW can win against Darkseid or Thanos, both being on god level essentially ( and also both are immortal beings like DD) if she decapitates them with a sword which is plain ridiculous even for a comic discussion...

 

[cR_whiteboi]

Doomsday would win this and also this should've been a poll.

 

[yaoding09]

Who is arrogant here? Go read your posts...

I'm "trolling" since I disagree, and you are right and I need to "get over it".

Since Doomsday has NEVER been shown to have ANY resistance to magic all of a sudden we are supposed to think he might have some resistance, based on nothing??? Makes sense. Or that after having his head chopped off by a faster WW he will gain some resistance and come back to win? Makes sense.

I may be completely wrong here but I think people are underestimating WW because shes a woman. I still think in the end its doomsday and superman and maybe black adam.

 

[Lex Luthor II]

Doomsday would win this and also this should've been a poll.

I know, I shoulda made it a poll I dont think I can do that now, I tried editing it, can a mod do it?

I may be completely wrong here but I think people are underestimating WW because shes a woman. I still think in the end its doomsday and superman and maybe black adam.

No Flash love? And idk if its cuz shes a woman, no idea if that is how it is, but it DEFINITELY seems people are totally unfamiliar with her compared to everyone else.

 

[yaoding09]

I know, I shoulda made it a poll I dont think I can do that now, I tried editing it, can a mod do it?



No Flash love? And idk if its cuz shes a woman, no idea if that is how it is, but it DEFINITELY seems people are totally unfamiliar with her compared to everyone else.

Oh I love flash but from what Ive read and I just cross referenced it said that flashes speed force aura only gives him a low-level super human resistance to injury. What I pick up from that his he can take some hits but none from the likes of supes ww dd or BA.

 

[fong03]

Which versions of what? Prehistoric Krypton was much older than Prehistoric earth for sure. They were trapped and fighting for a thousand years. DD was exiled and imprisoned in Earth for thousand of centuries alone. So yeah i believe DD is older than WW and, of course, Superman. Ofc DD is more experienced in fighting than WW.


Here is a scan... Read the text.

The "stupidly written comics" phrase was first told by Lex Luthor, thats why i back fired it at him in my post. Cause if we post some facts, he says" Go read some comics" and when we post some comic facts his respond is"stupidly written comics" or something like that. I presented facts from good written comics, not BS.

I didnt indicate that DD might be immune to magic. I said that we dont KNOW if DD is susceptible to magic. Luthor kept telling that DD is 100% susceptible to magic attacks without proof. From all we know he might have faced magical beings before and became immune to magical attacks. He might be susceptible, i never denied that. But even so, he can adapt during the fight and be immune from a second magic attempt in a matter of minutes. And since DD is way more experienced than WW in fighting, chopping his head or throwing him in the sun as Luthor said wont be possible. She doesnt even have the psychical strength to effectively send him to the sun ffs. DD also has way more stamina and endurance than WW. Take these things into account as well. DD can breathe in space. WW cannot IIRC. Plus, and this is taken from Wikipedia, "Edged weapons or projectiles applied with sufficient force, though, are able to pierce her skin". What i mean by that? DD's bone extractions can be used as weapons to pierce her body. He did it against Superman and he can certainly do it against WW. I believe its clear now that WW does not stand a chance against DD.

Again, that scan is much older and does not represent what the lasso is capable of now. (At least before the reboot. We have no idea now.)

First you said hundreds of centuries and now it's thousands? And even if that were the case, if he were imprisoned in Earth then he wasn't fighting. That does not indicate an experience advantage. It really won't make a difference for the fight, but the claim you made is not supported by these facts.And you need a lot more than that when you bring into question Diana's fighting skills, which are incredibly good.

You have no reason to believe he is not susceptible to magic. You need evidence otherwise you have to assume that he, like nearly everyone else, can be harmed by it. Everything else you've said is pure speculation and all of it unfounded.

Not that I can see WW throwing him into the sun, if she has the strength to help pull the planet, I think she could manage that as well.

WW has fought in space before as has been stated many times in this thread alone. I'm not sure what that has to do with this fight.

You really should stop using Wikipedia as your source of "facts." You realize that anyone can edit those pages I hope. And as has already been said in this thread, her vulnerability to piercing damage has fluctuated over the yeras and recently she has only been show to be harmed by magical weapons. If he was able to penetrate Superman's skin as you claim, then I believe he could do it to WW. It not because of a wikipedia cite though.

Doesn't stand a chance? No, that isn't clear. The one thing WW has going for her are her weapons. And please remember that when you talk about her armory, you're talking about the weapon of Greek gods like Zeus, Gaia and Hephaestus. That is the level of power to which he would have to adapt. And for some of those weapons, he would get a second chance . . . The scan you posted is dated and as I said the power of the lasso has grown over the years.

She would give him a fight. She'd lose in the end. (Mind you, I'm arguing standard WW here (sword, shield, lasso, bracers, tiara). If she had full access to all of her gear, *that* would be an entirely different story.)

 

[A27Alak]

Ok, people really need to stop bringing up crossover events into this discussion. The whole DC vs. Marvel thing was a popularity contest in which outcomes of the battles were voted on by the readers. Batman beat Hulk because he was more popular, not because the writers genuinely thought he could win. Similar stupid moments include Storm beating Wonder Woman, or Superman standing perfectly unfazed in one spot after an enraged Hulk throws a punch at him.

Those fights are non-canon and therefore must be considered irrelevant to this thread.

 

[Lex Luthor II]

Ok, people really need to stop bringing up crossover events into this discussion. The whole DC vs. Marvel thing was a popularity contest in which outcomes of the battles were voted on by the readers. Batman beat Hulk because he was more popular, not because the writers genuinely thought he could win. Similar stupid moments include Storm beating Wonder Woman, or Superman standing perfectly unfazed in one spot after an enraged Hulk throws a punch at him.

Those fights are non-canon and therefore must be considered irrelevant to this thread.

Yeah people are just using them as examples of stupid writing, and they are STILL popularity contests in cannon noncrossovers which is why hulk vs THOR somehow THOR forgets about his speed or his magic. Or somehow Superman tags the Flash using his speed? Nay!

Again, that scan is much older and does not represent what the lasso is capable of now. (At least before the reboot. We have no idea now.)

First you said hundreds of centuries and now it's thousands? And even if that were the case, if he were imprisoned in Earth then he wasn't fighting. That does not indicate an experience advantage. It really won't make a difference for the fight, but the claim you made is not supported by these facts.And you need a lot more than that when you bring into question Diana's fighting skills, which are incredibly good.

You have no reason to believe he is not susceptible to magic. You need evidence otherwise you have to assume that he, like nearly everyone else, can be harmed by it. Everything else you've said is pure speculation and all of it unfounded.

Not that I can see WW throwing him into the sun, if she has the strength to help pull the planet, I think she could manage that as well.

WW has fought in space before as has been stated many times in this thread alone. I'm not sure what that has to do with this fight.

You really should stop using Wikipedia as your source of "facts." You realize that anyone can edit those pages I hope. And as has already been said in this thread, her vulnerability to piercing damage has fluctuated over the yeras and recently she has only been show to be harmed by magical weapons. If he was able to penetrate Superman's skin as you claim, then I believe he could do it to WW. It not because of a wikipedia cite though.

Doesn't stand a chance? No, that isn't clear. The one thing WW has going for her are her weapons. And please remember that when you talk about her armory, you're talking about the weapon of Greek gods like Zeus, Gaia and Hephaestus. That is the level of power to which he would have to adapt. And for some of those weapons, he would get a second chance . . . The scan you posted is dated and as I said the power of the lasso has grown over the years.

She would give him a fight. She'd lose in the end. (Mind you, I'm arguing standard WW here (sword, shield, lasso, bracers, tiara). If she had full access to all of her gear, *that* would be an entirely different story.)

Yeah everything suggests Doomsday is NOT resistant to magic. And its not like after the first sword strike he somehow becomes immune to the gods....

Saying WW doesnt stand a chance is definitely stretching things.

She fights and regularly beats gods whos power outclass Doomsdays, in speed, durability [resists magic], and fighting ability. Ares being a good example.

It'd be a good fight.

 

[Metzos]

Again, that scan is much older and does not represent what the lasso is capable of now. (At least before the reboot. We have no idea now.)

First you said hundreds of centuries and now it's thousands? And even if that were the case, if he were imprisoned in Earth then he wasn't fighting. That does not indicate an experience advantage. It really won't make a difference for the fight, but the claim you made is not supported by these facts.And you need a lot more than that when you bring into question Diana's fighting skills, which are incredibly good.

You have no reason to believe he is not susceptible to magic. You need evidence otherwise you have to assume that he, like nearly everyone else, can be harmed by it. Everything else you've said is pure speculation and all of it unfounded.

Not that I can see WW throwing him into the sun, if she has the strength to help pull the planet, I think she could manage that as well.

WW has fought in space before as has been stated many times in this thread alone. I'm not sure what that has to do with this fight.

You really should stop using Wikipedia as your source of "facts." You realize that anyone can edit those pages I hope. And as has already been said in this thread, her vulnerability to piercing damage has fluctuated over the yeras and recently she has only been show to be harmed by magical weapons. If he was able to penetrate Superman's skin as you claim, then I believe he could do it to WW. It not because of a wikipedia cite though.

Doesn't stand a chance? No, that isn't clear. The one thing WW has going for her are her weapons. And please remember that when you talk about her armory, you're talking about the weapon of Greek gods like Zeus, Gaia and Hephaestus. That is the level of power to which he would have to adapt. And for some of those weapons, he would get a second chance . . . The scan you posted is dated and as I said the power of the lasso has grown over the years.

She would give him a fight. She'd lose in the end. (Mind you, I'm arguing standard WW here (sword, shield, lasso, bracers, tiara). If she had full access to all of her gear, *that* would be an entirely different story.)

I said he was confined in Earth for thousands of years and before that he was terrorizing the entire universe and that was almost 240.000 years ago. Krypton at that time was at his prehistoric stages. He is THAT old.


Trust me i know the Greek gods, cause i am Greek. Wikipedia is not misinformed about DD's abilities at least, thats why i posted them. DD's bone extractions were able to penetrate Superman's body more than once during their first fight when Superman died. Could you plz tell me some noteworthy feats of WW? Cause i keep hearing about her weapons and stuff but still that doesnt mean anything. I dont think you realize the true potential of DD's abilities. Adaptation against any form of harm is probably the most broken ability, cause the possibilities are endless during the evolution. Now add to that that DD can fight indefinitely, crazy endurance, immeasurable strength etc etc. Dont make me repeat myself. DD is know to adapt almost INSTANTLY against anything that can hurt him. There are many examples, like when Superman cut him with a plasma sword, he regenerated instantly during their fight. During his fight with Radiance he was unharmed by Radiance's full energy blast. Darkseid's omega beams did nothing to him and he confronted them head on... Are you seriously going to tell me that a magic sword will will do what the above could not? Magic is strong yes, but its not that strong, unless you can prove me otherwise.

WW is known to be able to fight in space, yes, but for how long? DD doesnt need to breathe at all. Everytime DD fought WW he has destroyed her completely, with or without her lasso, and thats the point. And everytime WW was with the entire JLA when that happened.

Old DD would pound old WW to the ground any day of the week and thats a fact. Even if magic can kill DD, which i find doubtful, he will come back and be immune against it afterwards. What WW will do then? And mind you that he survived Imperiex's attack and recovered within months. Does WW have a weapon that can destroy DD's body for even one hour? Magic cuts are still cuts and they will be healed within minutes during the fight. After that all of her slashing weapons will be useless cause DD's body will adapt and even might evolve psychically. Also there is no way she can dismember him THAT easily even with a magic weapon because of his solid body structure.

I really dont see how she can give him a run for his money seriously.We ll just have to wait for New 52 DD since we dont have the means to compare the new WW against the old DD, thats fair enough.

What she can do if she has access to her full gear?

 

[Lex Luthor II]

After that all of her slashing weapons will be useless cause DD's body will adapt and even might evolve psychically. Also there is no way she can dismember him THAT easily even with a magic weapon because of his solid body structure.

Magic doesnt really care how hard a material or bone is though, cuz its magic. This is why Superman, whos durability is almost on par with DD and is basically invincible, cuts his finger by simply touching it. Now Doomsday, depending on the writer, may have higher durability than Superman, but is it THAT much higher where, if Superman cuts it by touching it, instead it is being swung at near the speed of light at his arms/neck it wont cut if off? I think logically it makes sense it'd slice it off. Would slice all his bits and pieces off and his head before he becomes immune to the gods. Magic ey.

Maybe one day where it says he has ever become immune to magic, or that he can adapt and overpower the gods magic in a few minutes, then he wouldnt get all sliced to itty bitty pieces. Till then, I think he loses. Logically.

 

[cR_whiteboi]

Not that I don't believe you, but may I have a link to wonder-woman sword cutting superman?

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

i know he did cut his finger on wonder woman's sword. It was in kingdom come right?

 

[A27Alak]

Indeed, it was Kingdom Come. I don't think Wonder Woman's sword had any good feats in the mainstream comics, though. It was just a special sword that she decided to use for that single event. For the New 52, her bracelets create swords but we haven't seen any evidence that they're even in the same league as the Kingdom Come sword.

 

[GrundyFox]

Technically speaking, as much as I love Kingdom come, it is not canon. You'd be better off using this one as an example.

 

[Lex Luthor II]

Indeed, it was Kingdom Come. I don't think Wonder Woman's sword had any good feats in the mainstream comics, though. It was just a special sword that she decided to use for that single event. For the New 52, her bracelets create swords but we haven't seen any evidence that they're even in the same league as the Kingdom Come sword.

What? The sword was the same sword she always uses. The sword made by Hephaestus. And it doesnt really matter, its cannon and not cannon. It is cannon for the alternate future, but has nothing to do with the new 52. She says "Be Careful. The sword was a gift from Hephasestus. It can carve the electrons off an atom." Its the same sword, always.

But thats not what Im talking about, I cant find the one Im talking about. Heres a couple about magic swords.




Top one is evil Diana. Bottom ones are him catcher her sword and it barely flicking it at him, and drawing blood.

I was about to post the one about the tiara cutting Supermans neck, but GrundyFox beat me to it.

In the new 52 a sword strike into Darkseids eye totally fucked it up too. I dont think Darkseid is resistant to magic. If you are going fight WW and are not resistant to magic you are going to have a bad time.

 

[Lex Luthor II]

What she can do if she has access to her full gear?

Wonder Woman puts on her Gauntlet of Atlas and it increases her strength by 10 times, and then she snaps Doomsday in half. gg.

She also, with the bracers she wears normally, can shoot out magic Zeus lightning bolts. ggs superman, or non magic resistant opponents.

But again, they just never let her uses this crap in fights, because its boring, same with many characters true powers, like Flashes speed or THORs magic/speed etc.

Wonder Woman is too overpowered.

So overpowered they have to dumb her down and literally ignore things about her. [Just like with Flash and THOR. It happens.]