Usually the worst characters are the ones who are unviable... That's the whole purpose of a bottom tier/F tier trash character like Kotal and D'vorah..
I play a lot of kollector. He might seem better than other low tiers due to his command grab and good strings but he really struggles maintaining pressure as everything except f1 is minus enough to you either get punished or lose your turn completely. It seems that his maces were supposed to be how he remains safe and maintain pressure but the removal of mace and bola dash cancel really hurt him as character. I still think he is bottom 3 as most matches consist of you getting pressured for the majority of the game whether its against rushdown or zoning.
Where would you place Jax then
Jax is solidly mid, no higher than that - none of this high A/A+ nonsense (ppl really putting him above Kabal??). He also has more polarizing matchups than any other character I've played, including Raiden. He is forced to come in and make hard reads against most of the cast who set the pace of the MU.
I think he is upper mid, but also think kabal is better
Yea, for sure see what your saying. My brother plays kotal and I have tried lately to pick up d'vorah. She has glaring setbacks.... I have thought about the absolute best ways to play her and most of her moves are to slow to use in close. Her ovi- whatever it's called now can keep her safe, but she doesn't have a fast frame starter for combos, she puts out some of the least damage output in the game. Her fast starter leads to 15% I think. Her air to air is 18% and unless you use the 21 bug trap in combo, which leaves you with 22% damage all other bug traps can be jumped out of. She has two usable kbs and once those are gone, she has hardly any damage. And the way I figured out how to make her somewhat viable with staggers, zero frame moves, plus on hit pressure leaves her with too low of damage to win matches against good players. You basically have to play flawless with her. And you have to get four to five touches to get a win....
I agree and disagree, in the right hands a very low tier character can still be a menace if they just lab the fuck out of them and milk them for everything they are worth and play them certain ways. Look at furious pillow he hit a top 16 with kotal. Doesn't mean that kotal isn't garbage. As far as playing them certain ways. D'vorah is garbage up close if you play her like any rushdown character cause her strings are slowing startup. You use her fast starting string as an 18% get off me tool and her 21 to put you just far enough away to move back and wiff punish with her f13 starter. And you have to use her different than the rest of the cast, mostly on wiff until you get in. Once you get in you set traps and put pressure on them and when your out of meter you have to play safe and try to get solely f13 on hit then use the plus frames to jail into either her 44 or 212 or 213 you can also end anything she has with ovi-whatever-its-called-now and if you get that on hit then it garantees another f13, but if you play her like most of the cast she is not viable at all. Looking at her moveset compared to the rest of the cast the numbers make her look like trash, but if you want to play a character that is hard to get in but has pressure once you do and get hardly any damage for it then d'vorahs the one. And I mailed kollector when the game first came out and he is definitely in the bottom three... My opinion is that kotal and d'vorah fight for title of the lowest tier then kollector but in the right hands any character can be somewhat viable.
My phone likes to make me look like I'm illiterate!!! Slow on startup* mained*
Sonic Fox had some success when he was using Buzzed D'Vorah and Honey Bee won an online event with Arachnophobia D'Vorah a couple of weeks ago.
Joker and Cassie are at least as good as Sub and Terminator imo.
I agree Cassie still strong even after nerfs and Joker is definitely good hard to say how good tho need time for people to fully bring out his potential
I am not certain how much of The Joker is the The Joker and how much is Sonic Fox. Besides, more data are necessary on the character so I digress.
Regardless of Sonic, Joker is relatively safe, has a decently fast mid, good spacing tools and range, useful krushing blows, and good damage. I think he should at least be considered, although it's obviously still early.
Top 10.
The Simplicity $1000 event. It was really a great tourney.
dang... your a MOD right? Why don't you post these things on the news page so we all know what is going on?
I've been posting about it all night and tweeted it out 3x as well on TYM's account.
I should let you do news posts + tweets for a few months
