Aftershock's both really good at zoning AND anti-zoning because of air quake. Crystalline can deal with it OK because of crystallization, but Metallic has some issues I would say (Although you can trade a rolling magma and run in before they get up).
Cool thank you!
Specials with 1 hit of armor:
Must be a bug.
Yeah that bug had been found a while ago but clearly they still haven't fixed it for whatever reason, sucks. https://testyourmight.com/threads/metallic-tremor-bug.61934/
Thats the exact setup i wanted to upload when I said on stream lol. Dope stuff to eat two hit wakeup
His best variation is all of them because they all come into play against certain match ups..His bad mus are characters that can zone(kitana) and characters with really strong footsies(lui kang) because its really hard for tremor to get a turn in against them...Tremor's metallic atm is not as strong because of that bug he has when switching stance(gold/lava), losing your armor on magma blast because it went over to gold can really cost you gms when trying to wake up with but it instead you get blown up..As for aftershock, use this variation when playing against really strong grounded characters(goro) because ia quakes can really limit there movement and besides you dont want to use aftershock against somebody that has great air mobility(tanya) because they take away your air quake and i really feel that its one of his best moves..crystaline shuts down single armored move wake ups like sub zero, ermac and many others so i would use that variation against them..
I think Tremor is high mid tier at worst and top 10 at best. Despite all the negative changes to armor moves, up rock, and the EX ground pulse OTG, he has somehow managed to remain a viable and strong character.
What makes Metallic worst by large margin, can you elaborate?
Flash parry is one of the best counter zoning tools in the game, it allows him a free way in from just past midscreen or closer and you can do it on reaction to a lot of the projectiles and full combo punish. I disagree heavily with the narrative that Tremor gets out zoned, on top of Flash parry he has the ground pounds in AS which are also effective at counterzoning as they allow him to steal his turn back and cover distance, or throw a couple of projectiles of his own if he wants to. And if any character controls the air effectively you switch to Crystalline as he has an incredibly strong ground game.
Metallic has the worst neutral game and the least options to stop low pokes. While lava stance has the most damaging combos, the rolling stone has a slower startup, which makes EX rolling stone more difficult to use in pressure. The rolling stone in gold stance travels faster than in any other variation, but the gold punches have mediocre recoveries and limited utility in pressure. Aside from the damage and the two hits of armor of EX shatter, I cannot see what Metallic does that the other two variations do not. If you activate flex, Crystalline has a re-stand in the corner against most characters.
Flash parry cannot be used to punish projectiles with quick recoveries such Kitana's instant aerial fans and HQT Predator's plasma.
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@InFlamesHi guys, I have picked up Tremor (crystalline) recently and already read a lot of post and watched lot of videos thanks to the community.
One thing I did not find yet and I ask it: what is the ideal frame data after F121xxDB1, DD (crystal shatter cancel)?
I saw that this move was used quite often to mess up the opponent and do more pressure instead of giving up your turn with a simple ender/mixup.
I went to the lab and found that it was at least +1-2 but that might be just due to my poor execution and observation (tried to watch the jumping opponent with me
Watching match footage I just see that everybody rather block after the cancel and Tremor can throw or start another pressure. And can punish any button with F1 (probably not the low profile but I did not see any attempt for a counter D1 so far).
In the lab I found that crystal shatter cancel after any other string is quite minus (3-5) so probably that's why I saw only after F121 in real matches).
Thank you in advance!
+2, and shatter cancel is also useful after 21d4u4 and b1d4u4.Hi guys, I have picked up Tremor (crystalline) recently and already read a lot of post and watched lot of videos thanks to the community.
One thing I did not find yet and I ask it: what is the ideal frame data after F121xxDB1, DD (crystal shatter cancel)?
I saw that this move was used quite often to mess up the opponent and do more pressure instead of giving up your turn with a simple ender/mixup.
I went to the lab and found that it was at least +1-2 but that might be just due to my poor execution and observation (tried to watch the jumping opponent with me
(frame data calculation according to the chart does not make sense in that case)
Watching match footage I just see that everybody rather block after the cancel and Tremor can throw or start another pressure. And can punish any button with F1 (probably not the low profile but I did not see any attempt for a counter D1 so far).
In the lab I found that crystal shatter cancel after any other string is quite minus (3-5) so probably that's why I saw only after F121 in real matches).
Thank you in advance!
Thank you for your advice.
Now that makes sense.
