Briggs8417
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When in doubt, dash it out! Then get full combo punished. ;_;that awkward moment where the other character's combo starter is as fast as your d1
When in doubt, dash it out! Then get full combo punished. ;_;that awkward moment where the other character's combo starter is as fast as your d1
If by that you mean out of the tournament, then yes.When in doubt, dash it out! Then get full combo punished. ;_;
Of course, is there any other way?If by that you mean out of the tournament, then yes.
That is my general strategy.
Kabal, Sonya, Kung Lao, Kenshi, and Freddy... I would also make the argument that Smoke > Cyrax depending on how consistantly the smoke is landing resets.... Also you have to consider that without meter Cyrax is not scary at all.... I'm pretty sure he has the lowest BnB in the game without meter...
this post is perfectI forget the exact %, but (JIP 21Net + NJP + B2 + 21 + 212Ragdoll + Throw) is at least 40%.
Also: The Command Grab > The Fear Of Resets.
The only thing worse than a 70% reset is being CG'd and chipped out for between 20-30% every time you let Cyrax inside, running the risk of getting Netted and looped right back into it, and giving him enough of a lifelead to not HAVE to use that reset. Then Cyrax is keeping bars to break you off, which means now you've gotta work twice as hard to get momentum going, and Cyrax hasn't spent a bar.
IMO, at this point in Cyrax's lifespan, his Grab, pressure mixups, and panic-inciting possibilities are good enough to make him #3 or #4 over the rest even BEFORE you factor in the exploits...except in some of his losing matches ala Kabal, where max damage is absolutely crucial.
I'll leave this debat up to you and Sects (who posted on my account).... But I'm just not seeing that, anybody care to explain?it has been discussed and agreed by cyrax players that smoke does not beat him in no way shape or form. cyrax takes the game, chews it up, and vomits brokeness.
I honestly don't even reset much anymore. I don't see the point, because it leads to more openings in my experience to incite the fear and force errors with pressure, mindjobbing and frame dysfunction than to just go for the kill and lose the safety Net. There's NOTHING Cyrax can put in his pocket more important than a Breaker. My entire Cyrax game is pretty much like my Cage game: Grab trap, shenanigans, pressure, BnB reset, repeat. If I need to make up a huge lead, THEN someone's getting bombed, but it's a much easier time laying on barbed wire when you're wearing gloves, if you dig my dirt.this post is perfect
also remember that he can get a bomb setup after every meterless combo, even if the damage isn't huge.
I officially love this line.but it's a much easier time laying on barbed wire when you're wearing gloves, if you dig my dirt.
lol anti zoning strats in mk9,what dash blocking?So does Sonya. The matchups are definitely winnable for her, but most of the characters she struggles with are zoners. Hell, even Sindel can shut Sonya right down if the Sonya player doesn't know their anti-zoning strats.
It's a hit or miss talent.I officially love this line.
You oughta write one.Someone oughta get me a proverb book.
...I think I might.You oughta write one.
i ranted/made a list of reasons cyrax in fact beats smoke in the smoke character MU thread, it was also discussed on the smoke kouncilI'll leave this debat up to you and Sects (who posted on my account).... But I'm just not seeing that, anybody care to explain?
That xSmokex guy from Canada has I know, and I feel like Wafflez has, but I can't remember what tournaments those all were at.Smoke is only viable against people that don't know the MU or have Shitty fundamentals. You can't run through a whole bracket with only a handful of 6-4 MUs and having losing MUs against almost all of the most popular characters.
Whens the last time a solo smoke main made top 8 at a Major? Never?
That made me LOL a littleThat xSmokex guy from Canada
This is the best post ever. THANK YOU. People never take into consideration noone rarely does anything with Smoke and usually when Smoke is on stream at a tourament he is losing. He sits at around 12-15th i dont know when people will see that.Smoke is only viable against people that don't know the MU or have Shitty fundamentals. You can't run through a whole bracket with only a handful of 6-4 MUs and having losing MUs against almost all of the most popular characters.
Whens the last time a solo smoke main made top 8 at a Major? Never?
Also almost any character can learn the Smoke MU and realize its not that bad and his tools dont make him viable. Shitty Fundamentals is part of why Smoke can blow people up at times. When you learn to block, punish, and pressure Smoke its nothing special. He cant chip, can only get offense damage off his overhead, you have no worries of him armoring you unless its XRAY and thats hella free so even trying that is just wasting meter. You can get out of d1 SB and d4 SB is so easy to see coming. b2,3 is -8....b2 can get blown up with a jump over (just bait it out) Smoke is so predictable its sad. The best chance Smoke has is grabbing a lot like CDjr used to do with him.....wonder why CDjr won with him in the finals and than dropped him!Smoke is only viable against people that don't know the MU or have Shitty fundamentals. You can't run through a whole bracket with only a handful of 6-4 MUs and having losing MUs against almost all of the most popular characters.
Whens the last time a solo smoke main made top 8 at a Major? Never?
It made tommy switch because Tommy knows it is an uncomfortable MU for Smoke....if tommy n chris g played 100 times tommy would say its 6-4 reptile even if he is winning. Rushdown crazy Reptile breaks Smoke and dash gets around bomb so easy. Most Smokes hate playing high level Reptiles.Wafflez also beat up Chris G 3-0 at Season's Beatings. Tommy can't lose a single game to Chris G without the Smoke MU numbers needing to be changed.
I also like how we're told "just don't jump" when Tommy's biggest tears are how Smoke is free to jk.
wafflez doesnt travel anymoreThis is the best post ever. THANK YOU. People never take into consideration noone rarely does anything with Smoke and usually when Smoke is on stream at a tourament he is losing. He sits at around 12-15th i dont know when people will see that.
All characters that have done better than Smoke in tourys yet Smoke is somehow better than them or viable with them
Kabal
Kenshi
Cyrax
Sonya
Kung Lao
Cage
Jax
Sub Zero
Sektor
Mileena
Kitana
Liu Kang
Freddy
Shang
........im sure there are more.
Reptile can punish nearly any SB whether making it whiff or on block....thats pressure that reptile can only get on Smoke because of the way his projectile works. His D4 out ranges and beats Smokes (a tool Smoke uses always) than he gets more pressure. He can bait shake with forceball set ups and he can do all of this while getting in Smokes face fast and pressuring him. Its a certain rushdown reptile only gets on Smoke. Smoke cant use his Smoke away, Smokebomb, Smoke towards, Shake, Invis, and cant try to throw out b2 for spacing all because Reptiles dash blows them up......how is that a even MU??????? If this MU was played more it would be 6-4 Reptile like it will oneday. Smokes gameplan in this MU is to block and punish LMFAOWait what. Reptile's pressure isn't scary at all. His fastest normal is 11 frames and his pokes don't get him anywhere. Saying that all you can do is poke out is crazy, just 21~sb.
I know and honestly i didnt mention how good Smoke has done beforewafflez doesnt travel anymore
xsmokex cant travel when he competes w reo he loses 3-2 and almost wins and gets 2nd
There aren't any smoke players honestly who travel
Wafflez has NEVER been accustomed to fighting Reptile, despite having Han. He is a decent ways ahead of me...even was at MLG Columbus, but he definitely struggled a decent amount.wafflez plays this game all the time and is our best Smoke by far and Chris G with a 2011 Reptile made him switch to cage.....why? because its not a comfortable match up for Smoke.
Probably because Detroit isnt a Smoke main....Wafflez is the better Smoke but detroit has played countless characters against Reptile. Im not downplaying or complaining but Smoke doesnt go even against Reptile its clear. Reptiles tools beat Smokes and that makes it 6-4...dash is just too effective against Smoke unlike it is against the rest of the castWafflez has NEVER been accustomed to fighting Reptile, despite having Han. He is a decent ways ahead of me...even was at MLG Columbus, but he definitely struggled a decent amount.
When it came to playing DetroitBalln's Smoke, though, it was a LOT harder, for sure.
The matchup is in no way Reptile's favor, though. Reptile has to play the entire match using forceballs like once in a blue moon, in any given situation, even on wakeup. He loses a chunk of his game vs Smoke.