What's new

Top 3 Rushdown & Zoners?

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
why are people mentioning hawkgirl?
Everything she uses pushes her forward and can be meter burned into additional attacks that are fast, push you back and often catch you off guard.Plus there are some invincibility frames in her wing evade stuff and knowing once she is on you whether she will do the flip kick or the mace dash is tricky plus she can cancel her strings into flight to avoid lows and go directly into divekick pressure. She's got crossups, damage, is relatively safe on most stuff, has a great D1 and D2, can mb mace charge into most shit, and in general stay on top of folks endlessly and as Doombawkz said her corner damage and pressure is absolutely relentless. Theres no figuring out what she'll go for and without Back dash to get you out of there it suuuuuuucks.

Pick her up, try using her with the mindset of "I'm gonna blow meter like its free" and watch how insane she becomes with pressure. She pretty well was the main counterpick to Superman pre patch IMO.
 

Axel_Redd

Vampire Jesus....he wants YOUR blood now!!
Everything she uses pushes her forward and can be meter burned into additional attacks that are fast, push you back and often catch you off guard.Plus there are some invincibility frames in her wing evade stuff and knowing once she is on you whether she will do the flip kick or the mace dash is tricky plus she can cancel her strings into flight to avoid lows and go directly into divekick pressure. She's got crossups, damage, is relatively safe on most stuff, has a great D1 and D2, can mb mace charge into most shit, and in general stay on top of folks endlessly and as Doombawkz said her corner damage and pressure is absolutely relentless. Theres no figuring out what she'll go for and without Back dash to get you out of there it suuuuuuucks.

Pick her up, try using her with the mindset of "I'm gonna blow meter like its free" and watch how insane she becomes with pressure. She pretty well was the main counterpick to Superman pre patch IMO.
i thought she was low tier tho. i'll spend some time in the lab with her.
 
E

Eldriken

Guest
i thought she was low tier tho. i'll spend some time in the lab with her.
I really, REALLY hate good Hawkgirl players. It's like she's safe after EVERYTHING or she always has at least one bar of meter to leave her at advantage on block and you can't do shit about it. -.-
 

shaowebb

Get your guns on. Sheriff is back.
i thought she was low tier tho. i'll spend some time in the lab with her.
Not since folks got over the whole week 1 first impressions and figured out her tools. She has bad matchups like most, and one of the worst in the game in Sinestro...generally shes around even with most matches IMO and it comes down to player skill. She is a solid mid that some folks can make look High tier...I feel if DJT had known her he would have gotten more out of counterpicking Superman at EVO with her than Doomsday since he only chose Doomsday because Green Lantern couldn't get in on KDZ's Superman zoning game. Hawkgirl blows through most of Superman's stuff and would've been good to see up there.

I really, REALLY hate good Hawkgirl players. It's like she's safe after EVERYTHING or she always has at least one bar of meter to leave her at advantage on block and you can't do shit about it. -.-

Yeah she builds some meter with her pressure and it gets scary predicting those overheads. Its always a scenario of whether or not someone knows the matchup and how to bait and blowup her stuff if they got things that can. I believe in her as a character and I really enjoy watching folks like Trepound getting her going. Honestly she does so much with meter I really dont see a need to go for her super unless it would kill. High 30's to 40's off of every touch with 50s to 60s in the corner? Yes please.
 

Axel_Redd

Vampire Jesus....he wants YOUR blood now!!
so how am i supposed to fight hawkgirl, she gave my DS trouble because i really didn't know hwat to expect.
 

Ra Helios

Omnipotent God-like Selina Kyle Player
Don't have the top 3 but the top 5

The Best Rushdown character in my eye sight
(1.) Catwoman( Mix ups)
(2.) Batman
(3.) Flash (Mix Ups)
(4.) Doomsday
(5.) Batgirl

The Best Zoners character in my eye sight
(1.) Deathstroke
(2.) Sinestro
(3.) Raven
(4.) Cyborg
(5.) MartianManhunter
 

Bidu

the CHILL of DESPAIR
i disagree he gets in for free and can make you block forever

If you know how to play against Batman, he really doesn't get in for free (Specially if you're Aquaman, Green Lantern or anyone with a decent D2). Sure, it's easier to get in with mechanical bats up, but saying it's "for free" is just a overstatement.

Plus now having to wait 9 seconds for a single bat to be up made his rushdown a bit harder and shorter. I practically could make you block forever pre-patch, but now not so much. Imo additional 3 seconds to his trait was just too much. I belive that a total of 7.5 or 8 seconds would be enough.

Bruce went down a few spots in the tier list after the trait and b23 nerfs no doubt about it, but he still a pretty strong and decent character to play with.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
<3 lol i was half joking

I was confused ( redeyes too i think :) )

Anyway yea MMH can not 22b3 you so thats out. MB B3ing all tele is key. After blocked mb or normal ground spark its free trait giving you 50 50 lock down. Block low mostly and fuzzy the b2. Do not attack after blocked OH tele unless you have trait out

Its a tough MU and weird one but i think in the end we will find it to be 5-5
 

R3CK3Dx

KNEEL
<3 lol i was half joking

I was confused ( redeyes too i think :) )

Anyway yea MMH can not 22b3 you so thats out. MB B3ing all tele is key. After blocked mb or normal ground spark its free trait giving you 50 50 lock down. Block low mostly and fuzzy the b2. Do not attack after blocked OH tele unless you have trait out

Its a tough MU and weird one but i think in the end we will find it to be 5-5
thanks man Zod is feeling weird to play than the oher people iv used, i stuggle vs MMH, raven and i was playing against PLAYING TO WINS sinestro and i managed to beat him once then he won like 10 in a row lol btw those character tutorials you do for other characters you should do one for Zod
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
thanks man Zod is feeling weird to play than the oher people iv used, i stuggle vs MMH, raven and i was playing against PLAYING TO WINS sinestro and i managed to beat him once then he won like 10 in a row lol btw those character tutorials you do for other characters you should do one for Zod
awesome man i will

hes coming soon :)