Then why am i so good at games still with 99999999 times more players than any fighter? Moved on doesn't mean washed up. You do know that gamer refers to more than just a fighter, right?Tom be quiet. You're washed up and just constantly try say shit to fish for props.
I like the new direction you hitten us with, your no longer Mk FGC tom Brady your TOM BRADY gaming salute the rebrand.Then why am i so good at games still with 99999999 times more players than any fighter? Moved on doesn't mean washed up. You do know that gamer refers to more than just a fighter, right?
This is the first post in the history of tym I agree with you in 100%This argument is ridiculous.
And I’ve told Tom that 3-4 times on the phone.. As recently as last week.
Tom has become that 65-year-old “back in my day” guy. He’s sitting on the porch rocking back and forth and telling kids stories about The Good Old days.
But in all seriousness, it’s hard to take someone seriously when all of their arguments are constructed to benefit themself. To think that EVO was more difficult when tournaments had 100 players instead of 1000 players armed with meta info and frame data.. That’s a stretch indeed.
No doubt todays players are amazing, the players after them will be as well, and so on and so on.. Such is life, such is the world.. Evolution of games, players, etc is inevitable and ridiculous to think that things in the world shrink rather than expand over the years. No way did I ever say its harder to win in the 90s than it is now. In fact, only half of what i put up is actually in the thread which is a typical TYM move.Just responding to the title bc I don’t have the time to listen to this stuff but it’s very simple.
games are easier to play now but the competition is way harder.
no way was it easier to win in the 90’s.
I think the bigger thing to consider here are really good players that get old and washed up (like me). They are not on top or being talked about anymore and they can’t handle it. They look for excuses as to why they are not doing well or inflate their previous success in an attempt to validate all the time they invested into something without a return. Perfect legend is also super guilty of this.
Ok watched most if it and it starts off well....
Near the end it looses me and to be honest gets a bit silly so I had to stop.
In short the start is clearing up the 1st video and the end is about the "elite gamers of the world dont play fighting games so the real competition isnt there".
Kinda like saying the best soccer players in the world dont play basketball so Michael Jordan was great because there was no real competition.
Thats what I got from it anyway
I watched the whole video and I thought my summary of your perspective was fair.1. i never EVER stated it was "harder to win in the 90s".
There was no part 2 when I created this thread.2. i made a part 2.
The content is public so you are not exempted from criticism.3. part 1 was more in fun for YT content.
Again, I watched the whole video and I thought my summary of your perspective was fair.4. its tym so OBVIOUSLY only pt 1 is up and im seriously misquoted.
"Cannot put up with playing and competing... with the young generation"? Most likely, yet the Mortal Kombat 9 generation also no longer live with their parents and prefer not to compete for $12 an hour so Tom is correct in this respect. If someone wants to pay $30-40 an hour and offer full health care benefits, the Mortal Kombat 9 generation will play eight hours a day in order to keep up with the "young generation". All sponsors are welcome. LOL...... damn, you can see that even the past MK9 generation players that came out that time , cannot put up with playing and competing toe to toe with the young generation that come out in/during MKX, or the very new ones that are now in MK11, so, you can imagine what the next MK game will demand in terms of gaming hability level ?
Yeah the first part of the 2nd vid I get and thought it was a good way of looking at the differences between the two eras.In summery...
I detailed all the eras, why it was actually easier back then but still not without its own hardships, and closed with it is in fact HARDER to win in fighters today compared to fighters back then. HOWEVER.. fighters are in fact the easiest of any main stream competitive game to win in as they have the least amount of competition of all the competitive games.
Now THAT is the M2Dave that I know"Cannot put up with playing and competing... with the young generation"? Most likely, yet the Mortal Kombat 9 generation also no longer live with their parents and prefer not to compete for $12 an hour so Tom is correct in this respect. If someone wants to pay $30-40 an hour and offer full health care benefits, the Mortal Kombat 9 generation will play eight hours a day in order to keep up with the "young generation". All sponsors are welcome. LOL.
"Cannot put up with playing and competing... with the young generation"? Most likely, yet the Mortal Kombat 9 generation also no longer live with their parents and prefer not to compete for $12 an hour so Tom is correct in this respect. If someone wants to pay $30-40 an hour and offer full health care benefits, the Mortal Kombat 9 generation will play eight hours a day in order to keep up with the "young generation". All sponsors are welcome. LOL.
Fighting games don’t really work that way, though. Even the biggest tournament, EVO, is still one event where pools happen on one day. Which means that you don’t just have to beat whoever makes top 8; even the best players can be knocked off by someone they didn’t expect, who was playing well that day, or playing an unconventional MU in pools. You have to be ready for everybody.Yeah the first part of the 2nd vid I get and thought it was a good way of looking at the differences between the two eras.
It was the last part I disagree with. I get what you mean but the top is the top.
NBA is the top basketball comp.
Twt is the top tekken comp.
Capcom cup is the top sf comp.
What I mean is all games have a top comp you have to earn your way into.
I think if you throw all of the people who brought tekken7 for example in a tournament all 5 million owners of the game the best players we have in that game now would still be at the top because of their understanding of the game. I dont think its about numbers.
Fighting games don’t really work that way, though. Even the biggest tournament, EVO, is still one event where pools happen on one day. Which means that you don’t just have to beat whoever makes top 8; even the best players can be knocked off by someone they didn’t expect, who was playing well that day, or playing an unconventional MU in pools. You have to be ready for everybody.
Look at the SFV EVO results.. It’s like a bloodbath. You have players who’ve made Top 8 at huge majors ending up 33rd and below. Lots of people end up being upset or knocked off by guys with much less of a name. You don’t get an hour-long sports match to come back and win — you get two short FT2 sets to lose and you’re out.
So no, it’s definitely not the NBA. FGs require you to be ready for anyone, anywhere, at any time.. And with the size of today’s tournaments, that’s a tall order. There are far more skilled midlevel players who can upset someone on a given day.
The only tournaments that are more insulated from this are the invitationals and ‘series finals’ like Final Kombat or the Capcom Cup Finals. But that’s only 1-2 tournaments a year, and you still have to deal with random sharks and gatekeepers at all the others. It’s just not the same.
It's easier to win in fighting games because they have the least amount of competitionFighting games don’t really work that way, though. Even the biggest tournament, EVO, is still one event where pools happen on one day. Which means that you don’t just have to beat whoever makes top 8; even the best players can be knocked off by someone they didn’t expect, who was playing well that day, or playing an unconventional MU in pools. You have to be ready for everybody.
Look at the SFV EVO results.. It’s like a bloodbath. You have players who’ve made Top 8 at huge majors ending up 33rd and below. Lots of people end up being upset or knocked off by guys with much less of a name. You don’t get an hour-long sports match to come back and win — you get two short FT2 sets to lose and you’re out.
So no, it’s definitely not the NBA. FGs require you to be ready for anyone, anywhere, at any time.. And with the size of today’s tournaments, that’s a tall order. There are far more skilled midlevel players who can upset someone on a given day.
The only tournaments that are more insulated from this are invitationals and ‘series finals’ like Final Kombat or the Capcom Cup Finals. But that’s only 1-2 tournaments a year, and you still have to deal with random sharks and gatekeepers at all the others. It’s just not the same.
Statements like that discredit peoples skill in general. People prove they can body top players all the time.I dont care how many "elite gamers" come and play what ever fighter they want they will get mopped at the top.
The statement was comparing fighting games to fighting games. Comparing across genres is completely different as they take totally different skills.It's easier to win in fighting games because they have the least amount of competition
If you compete in any other game it's harder because the players are more skilled then those who are playing fighting games because a high percentage of the world's elite aren't playing fighting games
Statements like this discredit top players in fighters. I dont care how many "elite gamers" come and play what ever fighter they want they will get mopped at the top.
More people play other games because they are more accessible. The degree if difficulty to play at the intermediate level in a shooter is a hell of a lot easier then a fighter let alone the top level.
Thats What I thought he was saying from that statement.The statement was comparing fighting games to fighting games. Comparing across genres is completely different as they take totally different skills.
No doubt that would be called an upset.Statements like that discredit peoples skill in general. People prove they can body top players all the time.
You can't just be on one side of the discussion bandwagoning top players that have done the exact same thing.