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It’s your choice if you want to defend a corporation over the working class. The laws will change on this eventually.Then they should not freaking accept the job. It is 50/50
It’s your choice if you want to defend a corporation over the working class. The laws will change on this eventually.Then they should not freaking accept the job. It is 50/50
Every state (U.S.) I've worked in has workplace harassment and abuse laws that cover everyone, whether contractor, part time or FTE. Which states don't?You should really read up on the rights of independent contractors. They probably didn’t tell anyone about the abuse(at the time it was happening) because in most cases they cannot take action for sexual harassment, a hostile work environment or other types of workplace abuse. They do not have the same rights as employees! If, hypothetically speaking, NRS is floating the potential of full time hire so contractors work harder and are more complacent, but they have no intention of hiring, it’s completely disgusting.
I’m not defending them I’m showing you both sides of the issue. It’s blatantly clear people will endure this crap for a chance to be hired by them. The only reason this was written was because they didn’t get hired. I understand it sucks, you work your ass off and you get nothing in return except a shit salary, but they’re still making it seem one sided when it’s really not.It’s your choice if you want to defend a corporation over the working class. The laws will change on this eventually.
I'm not angry. I just dont see how anyone is going to fault an employee for their own mistreatment. Its mental gymnastics because you A) accept the fact they should be treated better but B) blame them for not working elsewhere.I know the salary is BS but they chose this job and this field. Most of them probably thought it’s a lesser evil to work at minimum wage to get a foot in the industry. I can guarantee you they thought they could soldier through his and work full time for NRS. But most of them couldn’t hack it and it’s understandable. Why do you think they didn’t tell anyone about the abuse they got from NRS employees? Cause they wanted to get hired.
I die a little inside every time someone uses the term mental gymnastics. You could just as well say you don’t agree with me cause you’re angry. Jesus.
I highly doubt contractors expect to be treated like lesser human beings when they apply for a job at the studio responsible for making their favorite video game franchise.Then they should not freaking accept the job. It is 50/50
I don’t have a state by state list. They’re not protected under federal law but states have been individually changing that over the past year.Every state (U.S.) I've worked in has workplace harassment and abuse laws that cover everyone, whether contractor, part time or FTE. Which states don't?
Of course things need to change I am a big advocate of mental health care especially in regards to work. But it’s clear that they forced this on themselves yes NRS is at fault too, but if you feel yourself suffering mentally you apeak out you don’t let it continue and get worse.I'm not angry. I just dont see how anyone is going to fault an employee for their own mistreatment. Its mental gymnastics because you A) accept the fact they should be treated better but B) blame them for not working elsewhere.
A logical conclusion would be to advocate better standards and condemn the behavior. Instead we get a noncommittal "sucks it has to be that way but oh well what can you do, work somewhere else", "fault on both sides" approach which only ever results in the behavior continuing.
Enough evidence cant possibly be brought to bear against these antics if ppl continue to waffle and give ground this way.
More like, some people have lived through this shit themselves and know better than others what it's like. The fact so many of you seem surprised about this or think it's isolated to the gaming industry just shows how little life experience you have.lmao some people here are dogs, their mentality is just "yes, Master", "thank you, Master", "I won't complain, Master"
"This us the way things are, therefore, this is how things should be"That's just part of life.
What I am actually saying is that you're naive if you think this will ever change. Companies have a lot of power, and a giant like WB..yeah, good luck lpl"This us the way things are, therefore, this is how things should be"
Basically what your argument boils down to. Theres a difference between making a sacrifice with full agency and being treated unfairly because you have no bargaining power.
People 50+ years ago understood this and our country changed for the better.
I agree that laws need to change for contractors. But I find painting these situations as "corporations vs. working class" as overly simplified and illogical.It’s your choice if you want to defend a corporation over the working class. The laws will change on this eventually.
Alexa, search for "survivorship bias"Does any of this mean contractors are not treated badly, or that it's not wrong? Of course not. But if you want something you need to fight for it and make sacrifices, and even then you might not get it. That's just part of life.
As far as I've learned (I'm no expert but have to go through standard HR training annually), most worker laws are handled at the state level. Some do exist, such as federal minimum wages, but states and municipalities can and do go beyond that. Many of the best worker protection laws, such as California's WARN act, are state driven. And the WARN act, for example, explicitly includes contractors and part-time workers.I don’t have a state by state list. They’re not protected under federal law but states have been individually changing that over the past year.
We live on different countries. Here there are lots of unions and wrong doings are always under the scope. These last years they've been getting away with this thanks to the new administration, but that's about to change.More like, some people have lived through this shit themselves and know better than others what it's like. The fact so many of you seem surprised about this or think it's isolated to the gaming industry just shows how little life experience you have.
I started as a contractor in the company im working at now. This is in logistics. The pay was shit, the responsibilities too much for our paygrade and during the busy periods..oh boy.
I CHOSE to stay there under those conditions for 2,5 years and it paid off. I have been an FTE for almost a year now with a recent bump in position and pay, and more opportunities coming my way.
I could have left and complained. Would have stirred up a nice shit storm. But I would rather roll with the hits for a while and end up on top.
Does any of this mean contractors are not treated badly, or that it's not wrong? Of course not. But if you want something you need to fight for it and make sacrifices, and even then you might not get it. That's just part of life.
Well put.People lives and time matters whether you're a full timer or a contractor. Period. Minimum wage can bite me. Creative peeps should stop settling for shit pay just to make a name for themselves. And companies like NRS who values artists of all types (at least that's my impression on the outside aspect of things #mkcollective) should definitely stop paying "what the law dictates is the minimum wage for that year" and show some respect for the artists helping in making their vision come to life and on time.
NRS should def be developing a relationship of trust and honesty with their contract workers so all expectations are met to prevent future conflicts. It's actually pretty simple. All they have to do is respect and let contractors KNOW that becoming a full timer is a slim chance, but hey, you're going to work with us on a AAA FG so you will gain resume, that does not sound too much to expect imo.
NRS-please treat your contractors as equals. As they ARE in fact working for you for the time period you need them to. That's facts. so I would say some trust has to be established in-order to prevent rebellious leaks from happening again.
They really should not treat their contractors as if they are disposable, instead it* should be in their best interest to maintain an ongoing relationship with them for when the next title is being worked on.
Exactly, just like those fucking anti-SJW's try to speak against the game, this article does that same but from a different way. Once again, don't trust anyone.Fuck why did I click on that video.
Thanks for ruining my YT recommendations thanks to this 100 view-a-video anti-SJW d-bag.
5 mins into the video and he starts talking about Burqa combat lol
I hate anti-SJW's and I don't care if he hates the redesigns of the female characters, I just wanted to make a point on the irony/hipocrisy of NRS. It was for the female employees and the title of the vid did just that. The dude in the video seems to be on a different agenda than me so, srry for screwing up your recommendation algorithmFuck why did I click on that video.
Thanks for ruining my YT recommendations thanks to this 100 view-a-video anti-SJW d-bag.
5 mins into the video and he starts talking about Burqa combat lol
Meh, I believe it. We've smelled the smoke about this for a long while, where there's smoke there's fire more often than not.I don't believe any of that shit. None of those "former emploies" are mentioned by name. And while people will tell me that "of course they won't be mentioned by name", that still doesn't change the much more possible of any of what this article tries to say that is true, that all it really tries to so is cash in on the drama around MK11 over the past week to get clicks and such. I've seen stuff like this on the internet for as long as I can remember. Don't believe that, this is bullshit.
Exactly, just like those fucking anti-SJW's try to speak against the game, this article does that same but from a different way. Once again, don't trust anyone.
I think you just smelled articles like this too much that you can't see through them anymore, just saying.Meh, I believe it. We've smelled the smoke about this for a long while, where there's smoke there's fire more often than not.
It makes sense. Their cycle of releasing games has been too frequent for it to be healthy for their employees. Even Ed Boon hinself mentions how much he works, and has gone on record to say work on the next game begins before the current is even finished. This is an all too common occurrence in the game industry.I think you just smelled articles like this too much that you can't see through them anymore, just saying.
NRS are just fine both inside and out, don't believe it.