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xWildx

What a day. What a lovely day.
I don't understand.... do other FGCs have this many issues with tournaments? It's always SOMETHING with the NRS group. Like... real talk, why exactly does the NRS community get shit on so much?
 

Vulcan Hades

Champion
Thanks for clearing some stuff up. Pig also explained his side of the story and everything is becoming more clear.

From what I understand it's a single mistake that caused a big snowball of problems: The place wasn't setup right to begin with so someone decided to put the game setups very close to each other. And that created a violation of the fire code. Not sure if it's related to the same thing but there was also talk of a bomb threat which explains why the security was so present/violent and why they didn't want people close to the stations. Probably also because someone had previously changed the game profile which screwed up the hotfix. So they didn't want something similar to happen again.

UltraDavid, Pig and 16-Bit talked to some MLG people and eventually made it so all players could get closer to watch their friends matches. Not just Floe and Chris G which apparently were the only ones allowed in the play/mic area aside from commentators.

There's a bunch of drama apparently involving some other members of TYM but I don't really care about that. Obviously both sides are going to point at and blame the other side and call each other names. So it's like whatever.
 
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GamerBlake90

Blue Blurs for Life!
N Megabytes got on a 26 hour flight from Australia because he was told MLG is the gold standard of tournaments, then got treated like garbage
I am to blame for this. I convinced @n-megabytes to make the journey out to the U.S. for MLG and EVO. Going off my experience at MLG Dallas 2012, I was 100% confident that he'd have a blast at Anaheim.

It seems I misinformed him and he paid an unfair price for it. Had I known that anything like this was going to happen, I wouldn't have encouraged him to go to this event. I can't even begin to comprehend how he must feel right now. :(

Megabytes, if you're reading this thread, I must express a public apology to you. I know you worked a godlike amount of overtime in Australia just so you could make the journey and the last thing I wanted was for all that to go to waste. I feel guilty for this, and rightly so.
 

Fromundaman

I write too much.
I am to blame for this. I convinced @n-megabytes to make the journey out to the U.S. for MLG and EVO. Going off my experience at MLG Dallas 2012, I was 100% confident that he'd have a blast at Anaheim.

It seems I misinformed him and he paid an unfair price for it. Had I known that anything like this was going to happen, I wouldn't have encouraged him to go to this event. I can't even begin to comprehend how he must feel right now. :(

Megabytes, if you're reading this thread, I must express a public apology to you. I know you worked a godlike amount of overtime in Australia just so you could make the journey and the last thing I wanted was for all that to go to waste. I feel guilty for this, and rightly so.
Okay hold up, while I'm sure he appreciates the sentiment and I do feel sorry for him, this is in no way, shape or form on you.
MLG fucked up this event royally. There is no way you could have known that.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I am to blame for this. I convinced @n-megabytes to make the journey out to the U.S. for MLG and EVO. Going off my experience at MLG Dallas 2012, I was 100% confident that he'd have a blast at Anaheim.

It seems I misinformed him and he paid an unfair price for it. Had I known that anything like this was going to happen, I wouldn't have encouraged him to go to this event. I can't even begin to comprehend how he must feel right now. :(

Megabytes, if you're reading this thread, I must express a public apology to you. I know you worked a godlike amount of overtime in Australia just so you could make the journey and the last thing I wanted was for all that to go to waste. I feel guilty for this, and rightly so.
Blake, I don't think anyone knew this would happen, especially with how successful MK9 was for us. Don't beat yourself up over it.

Hopefully, everyone there is showing @n-megabytes some S-tier hospitality, though.
 

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
I just feel bad for everyone involved in this event. This was by no means a fun tournament to be at and judging from what has been said, I would hope something striving to be as professional as MLG at least makes some kind of a statement apologizing to the players.

I had watched MK9 at MLG back when it was a thing, and safe to say I don't think anyone expected this.

It was bad enough people weren't very happy about the few players that were going, then to have all of this shit happen makes it to where does it even matter? I know alot of it was out of players control, and that's very unfortunate.

As for the prize pool, there are still standards that must be held and followed by at a tournament. If any tournament was ran like this, who cares about the money? People pay good money to travel. At least make the experience for the players good, very few people will see money from this.
 

RelentlessOhio

Divekick x 1000
Well yeah and a lot of players know that going in - some just enjoy the experience and seeing friends. But it is a hard punch to the teeth when you at least want a comfortable and fun environment after spending plenty of time and money for it, just to have the complete opposite. With what seems like nothing more than a "sorry, shit happens" from MLG staff.
 

Jimmypotato

Mid Tier
People pay good money to travel. At least make the experience for the players good, very few people will see money from this.

Top 4 get paid out for this event. More then the usual top 3 at a normal community event, but less then the top8 at MK MLGs.


No one should be playing these games to make a living, or make money.

But yes, you travel to play, and the experience should be good, and the tourny should be ran well. This looks so bad on MLG, it just sucks that they don't really have to give a shit since fighters are like a skullgirls side event for them at these things.
 

Obs_SmSwag

"I have good taste because I like what I like"
Shout outs to all of the players who spent hundreds of dollars to make this tourney and have to put up with stuff like that. Hopefully Sundance and his crew get it right by the time it all kicks off tomorrow. The elitism is real, but the exposure/prizes for Injustice are worth it i.m.o.

From a business standpoint though, I do have a problem with the x1000 "Mlg is the worst trash ever" comments earlier. Just because they treat you like the red headed step child doesn't mean you have to act like one; be professional about it. At the end of the day you're not at MLG to help establish their event, you're there to support your community and that's all that should matter.
 
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RelentlessOhio

Divekick x 1000
Basically. They will still run fucking SC2 and Call of Duty every year without a hitch and people will flock to watch it.

Too bad CoD is one of the shittiest shooters ever made, but I digress.

Like I said, it sucks we are the freak side show of the circus. When we have without a doubt the most dedicated and passionate players in the gaming community.

EDIT: And the most hype, I forgot.
 

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
Top 4 get paid out for this event. More then the usual top 3 at a normal community event, but less then the top8 at MK MLGs.


No one should be playing these games to make a living, or make money.

But yes, you travel to play, and the experience should be good, and the tourny should be ran well. This looks so bad on MLG, it just sucks that they don't really have to give a shit since fighters are like a skullgirls side event for them at these things.
See, I have no idea on who gets what amount, but that's still 4 people out of 70+ and me and you agree, as do alot of folks here that no one deserves the fallacy that MLG bungled up today. I just hope that the players can remain calm despite tempers flaring earlier between some folks and just see it through to the end of the event.
 

Jimmypotato

Mid Tier
See, I have no idea on who gets what amount, but that's still 4 people out of 70+ and me and you agree, as do alot of folks here that no one deserves the fallacy that MLG bungled up today.
by the sounds of things, alot of it could have been made better if there would have been better communication to the players,

Sometimes thats all it takes at these things, someone just has to let the players know whats up,

I really really feel for the guys there, a friend of mine texted me from there, and he just couldn't believe it.
 

RelentlessOhio

Divekick x 1000
The amount of salt that has been delivered today is just on an exponential level. They have a lot of making up to do the next two days, hopefully Cal-EL is right.
 

GamerBlake90

Blue Blurs for Life!
Okay hold up, while I'm sure he appreciates the sentiment and I do feel sorry for him, this is in no way, shape or form on you.
MLG fucked up this event royally. There is no way you could have known that.
Blake, I don't think anyone knew this would happen, especially with how successful MK9 was for us. Don't beat yourself up over it.

Hopefully, everyone there is showing @n-megabytes some S-tier hospitality, though.
No, I should feel responsible for this. I'm the one who convinced him to spend hundreds, likely thousands of dollars, to make it out to our country for tournaments that I felt he would enjoy, having experienced them myself. I kept up this relentless encouragement for months on end, only for Megabytes to be greeted by an experience that was more than bad - it was downright terrible.

We've seen tournaments of all varieties experience issues in the past, not just MLG, so I should not have been so naive as to think that MLG would be any different just because the one time I went to MLG turned out well. If I had only taken this possibility into account, this experience might have been avoided.

As it stands, I have to take my share of responsibility where it is due. Hopefully I will be able to make it up to Megabytes for having steered him wrong, albeit unintentionally.
 

RelentlessOhio

Divekick x 1000
Things happen Blake. We were talking on Twitch in Pig's stream chat - we all feel bad for him. Obviously he knows you didn't know it would turn out like this, no one did. Hell if we knew ahead of time, no one would have gone.

You just never know how a tourney is going to go. Some are great, some are okay to mediocre, and some are just horribly awful. That's sort of the risk you take with these things.

But, there are still two days to go. And Pig said Byte is making a full blown run to several other tournaments before he heads back. Maybe those will negate this one.
 

Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
I am to blame for this. I convinced @n-megabytes to make the journey out to the U.S. for MLG and EVO. Going off my experience at MLG Dallas 2012, I was 100% confident that he'd have a blast at Anaheim.

It seems I misinformed him and he paid an unfair price for it. Had I known that anything like this was going to happen, I wouldn't have encouraged him to go to this event. I can't even begin to comprehend how he must feel right now. :(

Megabytes, if you're reading this thread, I must express a public apology to you. I know you worked a godlike amount of overtime in Australia just so you could make the journey and the last thing I wanted was for all that to go to waste. I feel guilty for this, and rightly so.
I've never met you Blake, although we've attended a handful of the same events. You are a class-act, and this isn't on you. That level of ineptitude was unforeseeable, and hopefully we don't see it's like at a future pro event. That being said, I do feel for Megabytes. He went through a lot just to show up. Sorry, brother.
 

Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
Shout outs to all of the players who spent hundreds of dollars to make this tourney and have to put up with stuff like that. Hopefully Sundance and his crew get it right by the time it all kicks off tomorrow. The elitism is real, but the exposure/prizes for Injustice are worth it i.m.o.

From a business standpoint though, I do have a problem with the x1000 "Mlg is the worst trash ever" comments earlier. Just because they treat you like the red headed step child doesn't mean you have to act like one; be professional about it. At the end of the day you're not at MLG to help establish their event, you're there to support your community and that's all that should matter.
Exactly this: taking that mismanagement as an opportunity to act a fool only hurts us. Thankfully, a few stepped up.
 

Mr Aquaman

Armored Launcher
Administrator
This might be the first time I feel bad for everyone in the community, usually I am a west coast can kiss my ass kinda guy but today, shit MLG may have just 9/11'd our community, we might come together after this. If they announce it for MLG Raleigh again i am going to do everything in my power to influence every major player I can to not attend. The Fall Classic will be the FAR smarter choice, there is a clear consequence for money and does our full humiliation and lack of tournament standard have to the cost of it? Fuck this shit and fuck esports, Im loving going to my 16-20 man regionals, and my 60 man majors, they are the best fucking time of my life.
 

RelentlessOhio

Divekick x 1000
Yeah and MLG will just keep trolling along not giving a fuck about the mental stress caused to our particular community, especially the players attending. Why? Because money talks, and as long as that God forsaken CoD is around, people will flock.

eSports have always been shitty. I had several chances to enter in Counter-Strike tournaments with my CAL-M team, but I knew better. Was hoping 8 years later things had changed.