I know it's your character and people like to komplain about their characters, but he makes you raw guess up klose and hits with high damage. What do you expect? Multiple options of his go through attacks because of the armor and even if you decide not to attack, you have to guess between blocking or avoiding the grab. His dash is great, they buffed his standing jab to be faster than plenty of other character's jabs, and buffed his elbow drop (which he never needed). The elbow drop buff upsets me the most because characters kan't punish it reliably anymore. Manta has to do a walk up jab which feels as hard as the optimal just frame F3 that was possible before. At max range Manta kan't even punish it, and this is a character with a 9 frame ranged high, and a ridiculously far reaching F2.
Anyway, the only way to make your peace with all this is to accept that characters are just designed to be f*cked up. So it's isn't that Bane is bad, he's very good, it's just that there's a few other characters that screw him over.. ....because they're f*cked up too.
Elbow is a super easy reliable punish if you go into the lab and learn it with your character, it's not like Flash lightning kick or Robin BF3 that are legit inconsistent as fook to punish. Manta can punish it with B1 and B2 for example.
He has the faster jab than all other characters because his next fastest normal is 11 frames, which is significantly slower than the rest of the cast, and it basically means that anything that doesn't properly jail from plus frames can be poked out of. Yeah he has armour to make up for that and yes it's a 50/50 but both options are unsafe and full combo punishable while Bane only gets a knockdown into another 50/50 which may or may not be unsafe depending on whether he uses armour or not.
Since a high is his fastest move also you can poke out of plus frames unless he commits to unsafe armour, if he has it ready. Like you can poke out of Bane's 11D22 string which is +2 if you have a fast enough D1/D2 which is basically every character in the game.
This also applies to when you're at minus frames (but safe) it can be hard to get his pressure started.
He also has gaps galore in a good amount of his pressure tools like 11D2 which are like 8 frame gaps and no one abuses them.
His wakeup game without armour is pretty weak too, DB2 and BF2 are not fully invincible and are pretty easy to stuff as far as semi-invincible wakeups go.
There was more but I forgot what I was gonna say lol. I don't think anyone here wants buffs cause buffs will either do nothing to him or make him broke, you can only buff a character who has reversal armoured specials so much. It's just way too crazy of a playstyle to buff to those sorta levels, Bane just doesn't play IJ2 very well is all, he's big, pretty slow, pretty stubby buttons, and unsafe on loaadddss of stuff in a game that rewards being able to either move quickly or play patient, and Bane can't really do either of those.
Bane would've been a fantastic MKX character in his current state, if you think of it that way
