General/Other - Ferra/Torr The Ferra/Torr [Block Infinite] challenge thread

[Doombawkz]

In your video, you didn't walk forward before performing b1. @Red Raptor said that was the best way to get the timing right to get Ferra back on you. That would also (maybe) prevent the b1 from whiffing?

*Not saying I know, presenting potential arguments and inconsistencies in testing is all.

Second. Can we take a look at Erron Black? 7f d1 in beta, but in the current game frame wise he should have Takeda syndrome

If you walk forward you're still opening up the same frames. My way is literally 100% optimized. You aren't wasting a single moment.
Walking forward gets ferra on you exactly as fast, but you're still left gimping yourself. For the sake of it, I'll post another video of me taking a step forward after if it would appease you.

 

[Doombawkz]

Oh okay

But what about Ex B121 Ex low toss?

Same thing. When you block the third hit of b.121 low, the OH hits at a later point.
The low girl does not.
Same timings.

 

[Doombawkz]

so im watching ur video and comparing to red raptors. In your video, FT is def not in takedas face. He's further away than he is on red raptors video.

Would distance have any affect on it? Kind of like cassie's nut punch having more advantage if she hits them when they are higher in the air?

legitimate question

No difference. Ferra being on your back a frame faster and you walking forward a step isn't going to make your 10 frame move any faster since you're wasting 3 frames going from neutral to moving to neutral again.

 

[IrishMantis]

Same thing. When you block the third hit of b.121 low, the OH hits at a later point.
The low girl does not.
Same timings.

So if what you are saying is true where you can fuzzy both and still interupt then I guess it's not as broke as I thought

 

[The chosen puddle]

He obviously just proved he is correct lol and is very confident in being able to keep proving himself correct, can this ferra/torr witch hunt just stop lol i dont main the character and honestly dont give a shit about them but this is just disappointing honestly

 

[HomeLee1121]

No difference. Ferra being on your back a frame faster and you walking forward a step isn't going to make your 10 frame move any faster since you're wasting 3 frames going from neutral to moving to neutral again.

so basically i guess red raptor was just mistiming it? If that's the case, i apologize.

 

[Jolt]

If you walk forward you're still opening up the same frames. My way is literally 100% optimized. You aren't wasting a single moment.
Walking forward gets ferra on you exactly as fast, but you're still left gimping yourself. For the sake of it, I'll post another video of me taking a step forward after if it would appease you.

I put a slight edit in my post, you probably missed it. You aren't proving anything to *me*. I don't care, I love Ferra/Torr. But as a lab monster, it's your duty to prove to the naysayers beyond all disbelief. Especially since you're capable of doing so.

If it's fine, it's fine. Either way, someone's getting blown up and that's what I like to see. @SneakyTortoise we need Salt Report here kthnx

 

[EMPEROR_KNICKS]

Hello. As a lab monster, it sickens me to see everyone cling to this idea of a "block infinite" that isn't even close to one.

So I extend to the community a challenge. Find me any character you believe CANNOT get out of this blockstring and I will post for you two videos: One at point blank and one at optimal/peak distance to show you that every character can get out of this with ease.

I challenge you, community, to prove that you aren't just shitting the bed out of your own lack of knowledge.
I challenge you to prove your grievance. I plan to expose every single person who dares assume they know my character better than we, the mains, do.

Show me your shame, community. Allow me to show you why you haven't learned a thing since Bane.


Takeda:

Short and sweet. b.121xxOH toss has a delay inbetween strings to get Ferra back. Low blocking the third hit of b.121 will push Torr too far back to hit mid with his next b.121. Also throw works.

Please note, this is an even more crisp and precise timing than Raptor's video, meaning this is AS CLOSE as its going to get to the real thing. I grinded the timing of b.121xxOH to b.121xxOH to a frame at the most.

You are standing farther away than raptor was, which is why your grab, d2 , and d1 reached. Of course if you stand that far away your thing will get hit out of, like really.

 

[Generalbit]

You are standing farther away than raptor was, which is why your grab, d2 , and d1 reached. Of course if you stand that far away your thing will get hit out of, like really.

Bruh, chil. He's already making another vid

 

[Catnip_Her0]

This isnt as bad as ice clone in the corner

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Have each character escape 10 times in a row without fail and with no meter.

what no, thats stupid. Doom's point is that any character can escape. If you can't thats your own damn problem

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

I would actually like to see quan get out of this. his d1 is 6f but is also fairly short. But it seems the grab is the way to go.

 

[Sultani]

F/T block infinite proved not block infinite.

Nerf it anyway. Because Jacqui.

 

[Doombawkz]

You are standing farther away than raptor was, which is why your grab, d2 , and d1 reached. Of course if you stand that far away your thing will get hit out of, like really.

Updated with Quan chi using the step-forward method Raptor did.
Even at a range where b.121 hits as a mid, everything still trades because the step-forward takes 3 frames.
9 frames win.

 

[Doombawkz]

so basically i guess red raptor was just mistiming it? If that's the case, i apologize.

I put a slight edit in my post, you probably missed it. You aren't proving anything to *me*. I don't care, I love Ferra/Torr. But as a lab monster, it's your duty to prove to the naysayers beyond all disbelief. Especially since you're capable of doing so.

If it's fine, it's fine. Either way, someone's getting blown up and that's what I like to see. @SneakyTortoise we need Salt Report here kthnx

Check the OP, now with more Quan Cheese.
His 9 frames beat the thing clean, I don't know how to do his combos but those are probably good starters.
Torr being closer is even worse for him because he loses the advantage his long limbs normally give him.

I'll try to find another candidate and do both optimal range and step forward to see if that makes it any different, but its not looking like it.

 

[Doombawkz]

So if what you are saying is true where you can fuzzy both and still interupt then I guess it's not as broke as I thought

Yeah

 

[Jolt]

Check the OP, now with more Quan Cheese.
His 9 frames beat the thing clean, I don't know how to do his combos but those are probably good starters.
Torr being closer is even worse for him because he loses the advantage his long limbs normally give him.

I'll try to find another candidate and do both optimal range and step forward to see if that makes it any different, but its not looking like it.

Looks like we're done here, folks. Everyone return to ignoring F/T please so that I can pick them up. (In all seriousness, I *am* picking them up regardless)

But for shits and giggles, Erron Black?

 

[Doombawkz]

Looks like we're done here, folks. Everyone return to ignoring F/T please so that I can pick them up. (In all seriousness, I *am* picking them up regardless)

But for shits and giggles, Erron Black?

I'm on the case.

I'll even do Liu Kang so they can stop bitching about their 9f poke.

 

[SylverRye]

Good stuff. Now all that needs to be done is for someone to post it in the ferra torr infinite thread and bam, done. 16bit said characters were getting low poke buffs due to this so rip when certain characters get a 7f d1 lol

 

[SylverRye]

I'm on the case.

I'll even do Liu Kang so they can stop bitching about their 9f poke.

Erron has a 7f poke in the beta so a vid on the current erron is irrelevant.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Looks like we're done here, folks. Everyone return to ignoring F/T please so that I can pick them up. (In all seriousness, I *am* picking them up regardless)

But for shits and giggles, Erron Black?

I'll glady help you train, been a main since day one, and while I'm prolly not as good as the other mains, I know the character just as well.

 

[ryublaze]

You aren't doing it right. I've tested this thoroughly and there is no way out with Takeda, Kitana, Erron, and Kenshi. You have to be up in their face and you have to walk forward. I wish you could send recordings to people...

 

[16 Bit]

Good stuff. Now all that needs to be done is for someone to post it in the ferra torr infinite thread and bam, done. 16bit said characters were getting low poke buffs due to this so rip when certain characters get a 7f d1 lol

I did not say that...

 

[Colest]

Erron has a 7f poke in the beta so a vid on the current erron is irrelevant.

B12 and B121 for F/T also got more advantage in the beta from what I've read.

 

[SylverRye]

I did not say that...

Thought you said the characters redraptor listed were getting updated pokes in that other thread. Prob misunderstood. My bad