Breakthrough - Sub-Zero SZ 4Oct patch thread.

[Samsara]

Look at all these ice clones online. Cryomancers and GMs are coming out of nowhere.
How do you all feel about Unbreakable? Do you guys think hes actually viable now?

I've petitioned for UNB for awhile and of all the things many people said he needed, I think better recovery on parry at least makes him a viable alternative to GM.

That combined with the universal changes to armor and UNB is probably the best defensive option in the game right now

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

Unbreakable is definitely viable. I'm playing him right now and it feels so good. Btw, so much easier to AA with D2 now. Love the system changes.

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

I actually have people calling me cheesy. Never got that before with Unbreakable, lol.

 

[Revenant Zero]

I've petitioned for UNB for awhile and of all the things many people said he needed, I think better recovery on parry at least makes him a viable alternative to GM.

That combined with the universal changes to armor and UNB is probably the best defensive option in the game right now

Are you saying... ALL 3 Variations are... Viable!? #SubStruggleIsOver

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

Btw, the block stagger on Burst with Aura is awesome.

 

[blue dragon]

I want cryo's cold blooded back to way it was, very useful to cancel it into ex hammer

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

Are you saying... ALL 3 Variations are... Viable!? #SubStruggleIsOver

Well, I only play Unbreakable, so I can't say about the other two =)

 

[crosshair271]

He went from UNPLAYABLE to UNUSABLE to UNBELIEVABLE. I'm just glad all three variations are more viable now. Still some parts that can be improved but that goes for the whole game and cast too. I really want a mode where we can change variations like the old style change and make some crazy matches.

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

@blue dragon, yeah, but now you have command grab, that gives you 25% for a bar. That's pretty insane.

 

[Revenant Zero]

He went from UNPLAYABLE to UNUSABLE to UNBELIEVABLE. I'm just glad all three variations are more viable now. Still some parts that can be improved but that goes for the whole game and cast too. I really want a mode where we can change variations like the old style change and make some crazy matches.

This is so true... GM and Cryo are so much better since the first patch. Unbreakable probably was always butt until now. (shame about the jip whiff the parry tho)

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

He wasn't worst in the game before, like many people said. But there's no arguing that he's a heck of a lot better now.

 

[Braindead]

Unbreakable has a 39% midscreen 1-bar BnB now.

Rejoice.

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

Lol, yup.

 

[crosshair271]

Is it just me or did the Air Hammer get faster?

At 1:21

 

[Braindead]

Is it just me or did the Air Hammer get faster?

At 1:21

It's the same.

 

[crosshair271]

It's the same.

Dang. If his command grab is a special why isn't it listed in the pause menu specials?

 

[Braindead]

Holy fuck.

Parry, JIP, B12~Aura, B12~EN Burst, run, B12, 123~Slide = 39%

I just saw this. Damn that B12, 123 slide link is tight. I keep dropping it.

In the BnB I do B12 ~ Aura, B12 EX Frost Bomb, run, B12 xx Ice Ball, NJP, B12 slide. Does 38% instead of 39% but the B12 link at the end is easier than B12 123.

 

[crosshair271]

@Braindead
I clicked on your avatar pic to see what it said. I fell on the floor XD.

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

For the regular BNB, you can just end with NJP, FJP, run, 123~Slide and get 39%. FYI.

 

[Braindead]

For the regular BNB, you can just end with NJP, FJP, run, 123~Slide and get 39%. FYI.

Yeah I'm testing that but I keep messing up the run. I found out I can finish with NJP, walk forward, 1, b12 slide.

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

Yeah, that works too. Basically the universal enders for regular EN Slide combos.

 

[Braindead]

Yeah, that works too. Basically the universal enders for regular EN Slide combos.

Dammit all this stuff is too tight. It feels like it all depends on how far you were from your opponent when you first started the whole b12 combo.

 

[Savage8-8]

New corner combos.

with aura on

B2,B2 ~ 24 ->EN burst ~ 123->slide 42% 1 bar
B2,B2 ~ B12 ->EN burst ~ 123->slide 43% 1 bar
B2,B2 ~ B12->EN burst ~ 11-> EX freeze ~ NJP, JIP, 123 slide 46% 2 bar

 

[Braindead]

LMAO we can now whiff a parry after a grounded ice ball and still continue the combo hahaha

 

[Jeffrey Wolf]

New corner combos.

with aura on

B2,B2 ~ 24 ->EN burst ~ 123->slide 42% 1 bar
B2,B2 ~ B12 ->EN burst ~ 123->slide 43% 1 bar
B2,B2 ~ B12->EN burst ~ 11-> EX freeze ~ NJP, JIP, 123 slide 46% 2 bar

Those are tight to hit, but good shit. I'll make sure they're added to the redone guide.