You can end in vine grab. B223 xx clone, D3xx vinegrab.
wanna provide some better discussion other than that or nah? also that input is definitely something i have an issue with but i've given up on trying to get inputs changed with nrs games
My bad I didn't read your inital post correctly, you mentioned d3xvine grab there too. That's pretty rad, will have to mess with that.
You got this idea from me, haven't you?
Yeah, Air Dash.
seems to be the consensus that he's definitely super solid and just has some minor adjusting to his frames/properties. everyone here has had valid things in their buff lists imo. some have been a little greedier than others (i'm guilty of that but i'm not ashamed to admit i want my character to be more than just okay) but overall we can agree on a 6 frame D1, some form of frame change to his F3/B3, maybe some more sustain in his base toolset, and an adjustment to B223 whether it be gap reduction, B2 being faster, etc etc. #UndrainTheSwamp indeed.Yeah, Air Dash.
Anyways, I think he needs this after playing him for so long:
- 6 frame d1
- plus frames on f3, something like +8
- projectile "immunity" while in trait (not true immunity but essentially he would have unlimited armor against projectiles while in trait, allowing trades with Vine Grab and clone instead of the shit we have now)
- GT(MB) heals for 105 instead of 80
- f2 has a better vertical hit box so that it does not whiff under or above the move while the opponent is there (I've had this move low profiled and at times in combos it whiffs when the opponent is right above the move)
- change the input of up Vine Grab to db1 and make it 8 frames
- change the input of log kick to bf1 and make it safe on block, -6
- smaller gap on b223
Those are what I'd deem essential imo. Everything else can be argued. I think Swamp Thing is very good, he just needs some tweaks, mainly with frames and move properties.
I would enjoy both of these immensely.
Have you tried this on various characters? I'm not sure if it works on your small bodies midscreen. Tried it a bit last night.
READ THE COMMENTS. IM AN IDIOT. I was thinking other grapplers dont have to put up with that shit why should we.
Yes you are <3
I mean that seems like a lot of effort but if you really wanna
So youre a really pleasant person. Listen I dont even have a problem playing the character. I play him, I'm good on him, I dont blame him for my losses I suck it up and play the games. However it's undeniable that he needs a little bit of help. Are my suggested changes a bit much? Sure, I can admit that. But dont come into this thread and insult me because I'm not whoever the fuck Deadly Rebel is. And honestly, I lost all respect for your opinion on balance the moment you opened your dumb mouth about Deadshot. So do me a favor and just stop, you salty sad man.
Werent you just talking about how Deadshot is a problem and Cyborg needs faster fireballs? You were fine suggesting buffs and nerfs then, so is this post just because Swamp is a grappling rushdown fool?
It's fine, since he can't handle Swamp Thing clearly the character needs no help.
why are you playing swamp thing now anyway?
because i wasn't having fun so i decided to have fun. turns out i'm pretty good at it lol.
Sir Twice-A-Turncloak Finger
you're a deadshot player therefore nothing that you ever say or will say is valid.
So you get bopped by a Swamp Thing bc you don't know the MU and now you think you understand the character enough to comment on his suggested balance changes? Do you not see how contradictory that is?
