You'll get no disagreement from me about the state of online, which is really unfortunate. As for those various punishes, for sure, as soon as your opponent starts doing that you'll want to use the Klone differently, like to break armor against certain characters like I've shown, or as a roadblock for your zoning, or for corner setups, or just combo extensions. As for Dive Kick, being able to Dive Kick while jumping away is incredible, which is why that functionality is often limited in say Street Fighter games. It puts you in a low risk state against a lot of the cast, where you can punish them if you see movement. For instance, I instant air Dive Kick throws and pokes quite often this way.It does help and thanks
but when I played Sindel/Ashrah vs Sub I was able to meterlessly punish subs clone and Divekick:
But onlines another story. The Netcode is so trash I can get away with murder
And this is what I was talking about with meterless punishes on clone the ones I used meter are definitely worth it and put Sub in bad situations and even when I use Stryker to cover it vs Reptile I can still punish and knock Kameo out for free:
I see in another thread people talking about the similar thing, that Sub is high risk. It's true that Klone is risky, but it's also an incredible tool. Being able to reset neutral for free without the use of an assist would be pretty crazy, and you can do that against opponents who don't know the counter or if you read that they really want to rush at you. But you don't have to play Sub risky, especially if you're punishing them on reaction with Slides and Dive Kick, which is why I call him a counter/whiff punish character. And then pairing that with solid zoning and decent footsies, and you actually have a very well rounded character, imo.
Of course, at this point I get that most people won't agree, and that's fine (don't even get me started on Sikander, lol). Hopefully he gets some buffs in a few days when Quan drops that make people happy, but if he doesn't, I think he's still a good character that I hope people can enjoy, though they may need to adjust their playstyle/expectations some to do so.
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