Street Fighter V General Discussion

[CrazyFingers]

I will duck you too.

Would you a duck a Dhalsim who's never played?

 

[ILuvFightGames]

I will duck you too.

You'll never have to, emphasis on "when I git gud" which you can pretty much file that under never.

 

[jaepeso170]

@FL Rushdown recommended Mika and id second that. She's super solid and pretty well rounded, additionally I feel like she'd offer a nice change of pace from Ryu in terms of playstyle and approach.

Hell I'd like to learn a little Mika myself, but I always have trouble being serious on her. I like to goof off too much and end up just not taking the match seriously

My CFN is Jaepeso170
ill start practicing Vega and Mika and hit me up so we can spar and learn matchups

 

[JJvercetti]

Would you a duck a Dhalsim who's never played?

Honestly I have probably fought about 20 Sims and won once.

 

[FL Rushdown]

No one can out duck me. I've sabotaged cushs connection so we don't have to settle our Mika feud. That plus I switched to wifi so my connection couldn't handle playing jj, Myles, or scott. Then I manufactured a feud with shazzy so I didn't have to play him, got blocked by super mario, AND made sure to watch Netflix in 4K on multiple devices while playing vs other people so my connection would scare them away. Now I'm lonely though, but I guess it's always lonely at the top.

 

[Steven_a]

I just mash buttons and hope for the best

 

[LiangHuBBB]

played jimmy penguin today, and I thought jyobin was random, but this guy takes it to a whole new just do it lvl

 

[EntropicByDesign]

No one can out duck me. I've sabotaged cushs connection so we don't have to settle our Mika feud. That plus I switched to wifi so my connection couldn't handle playing jj, Myles, or scott. Then I manufactured a feud with shazzy so I didn't have to play him, got blocked by super mario, AND made sure to watch Netflix in 4K on multiple devices while playing vs other people so my connection would scare them away. Now I'm lonely though, but I guess it's always lonely at the top.

I wish our connection had been good =(

 

[EntropicByDesign]

I just mash buttons and hope for the best

STOP STEALING MY STRATEGERY

 

[EntropicByDesign]

My CFN is Jaepeso170
ill start practicing Vega and Mika and hit me up so we can spar and learn matchups

Will do man.

 

[Paul the Octopus]

If you don't get hype when Daigo throws someone 5 times in a row then I can't help you. That's the purest mixup in the game.

Meh I agree with @Rip Torn. While conditioning and reading your opponent plays a role, the corner mixups are still *at least* 50% just a random guess.

What makes Diago fun to watch is not corner mixups or anything like that, as his version of that is ultimately not that different. What is awesome to watch is his control of spacing. Watch his recent matches against Phenom and see how Phenom cannot break his defense - every dash is checked, every jump is anti aired, and Daigo doesn't waste any buttons. All his whiff punishes are true reactions.

In SFV, the most difficult things execution wise are things like hit confirming one of Ken's cr mk into super, consistent counter hit confirmation, and manual meaty timings in situations where you don't have a tight frame kill setup. Those can be 2 frame windows and legitimately quite hard.

 

[buyacushun]

Meh I agree with @Rip Torn. While conditioning and reading your opponent plays a role, the corner mixups are still *at least* 50% just a random guess.

What makes Diago fun to watch is not corner mixups or anything like that, as his version of that is ultimately not that different. What is awesome to watch is his control of spacing. Watch his recent matches against Phenom and see how Phenom cannot break his defense - every dash is checked, every jump is anti aired, and Daigo doesn't waste any buttons. All his whiff punishes are true reactions.

In SFV, the most difficult things execution wise are things like hit confirming one of Ken's cr mk into super, consistent counter hit confirmation, and manual meaty timings in situations where you don't have a tight frame kill setup. Those can be 2 frame windows and legitimately quite hard.

Got a link to that match? Or could you tell me what tournament and what position of the tournament (pools, top 8, etc)?

 

[FL Rushdown]

Meh I agree with @Rip Torn. While conditioning and reading your opponent plays a role, the corner mixups are still *at least* 50% just a random guess.

What makes Diago fun to watch is not corner mixups or anything like that, as his version of that is ultimately not that different. What is awesome to watch is his control of spacing. Watch his recent matches against Phenom and see how Phenom cannot break his defense - every dash is checked, every jump is anti aired, and Daigo doesn't waste any buttons. All his whiff punishes are true reactions.

In SFV, the most difficult things execution wise are things like hit confirming one of Ken's cr mk into super, consistent counter hit confirmation, and manual meaty timings in situations where you don't have a tight frame kill setup. Those can be 2 frame windows and legitimately quite hard.

Pretty much exactly what I was saying. Although I disagree that it's a guess. Whiff punishes, spacing, timing, setups, new resets, reads/reactions, these are the things that make me go wow in street fighter games. Not gaudy combos/juggles.

My fav moment in any sf match ever was when Ryan hart hit momochi with an uppercut fadc ultra. Not hard to do but the situation in which he did it made it incredible.

 

[B. Shazzy]

nah u guise r just bums being able to do combos that look more like this instead of medium punch medium punch would make for a way more hype game

hopefully capcom implements some mechanics changes for footsies and combos not just balance changes

 

[GAV]

nah u guise r just bums being able to do combos that look more like this instead of medium punch medium punch would make for a way more hype game

hopefully capcom implements some mechanics changes for footsies and combos not just balance changes

Wow. Is SFV really more potato than KI?

 

[CrazyFingers]

Wow. Is SFV really more potato than KI?

Wait KI is Potato?

 

[JJvercetti]

Wait KI is Potato?

What is potato?

Also who does not have med, med combos?

 

[EntropicByDesign]

I *THINK* he means auto-pilot easy from a doing stuff standpoint. KI kinda had auto combos with its linker system, etc.

 

[LiangHuBBB]

rofl

 

[FL Rushdown]

What is potato?

Also who does not have med, med combos?

pretty sure guile, Alex, and ibuki need counter hits to do a medium into a medium. Birdie might as well.

Also sim.

 

[FL Rushdown]

rofl

That dude has some serious autism.

 

[CrazyFingers]

I *THINK* he means auto-pilot easy from a doing stuff standpoint. KI kinda had auto combos with its linker system, etc.

Yea but the auto combo system is trash at a decent level from what I hear.

 

[B. Shazzy]

Wow. Is SFV really more potato than KI?

the combos can be just as easy but ki has a higher execution ceiling and way less linear combo paths which is sfv's problem it lacks real depth.

regardless of how easy doing autodoubles and linkers are, higher level ki is the most thought ive put into comboing in a fighting game since there are no real bnbs outside of counterbreaker punishes and you have to interact with the opponent while hitting 2f manual links

 

[EntropicByDesign]

Yea but the auto combo system is trash at a decent level from what I hear.

Not entirely. Auto-linkers are a part of play at strata. There are entire auto combos that end and everything, they are not good. BUT , at least a while ago, some characters were able to get a lot of mileage out of them, like Shago.

 

[buyacushun]

What is potato?

Also who does not have med, med combos?

pretty sure guile, Alex, and ibuki need counter hits to do a medium into a medium. Birdie might as well.

Also sim.

Juri needs st.MP to hit meaty or CH to combo into cr.MP.