SonicNinja3532
The Wannabe Prodigy
I don't know if this has been discovered yet as this is my first post on TYM, but I think there may just be a little frame trap with our local neighbourhood thunder god.
So I was doing a little testing, and I found that f24 is around +2 on block, and the same with b11 I believe. I found this by testing it against Jax's gotcha grab, which is 9 frames, and Raiden's standing 2,which is 10 iirc. If cancelled frame perfect, it will beat Jax's grab. If cancelled fast but not frame perfect, then it will trade, and if not cancelled correctly then it will be beaten. Obviously cancelling into f12 will beat it, but that's not the point. My main theory here is that by LRC f24 into b11, it will be a frame trap that will beat or trade with every non armoured move, depending on how perfect the cancel is. The fastest d1 is 6f, with I believe KL and Ermac(?) amongst a few others possess. Everyone else is 7f upperwards besides those select few. As a result, I believe that as b11 is a mid(obviously) we can frame trap people, and because b11 is also +2(correct me if I'm wrong) we can cancel 3 times(the order would be f24>b11>pressure option, I like 214 as most people will be blocking and take 3.5 chip, or throwing for around 15 after chip.) Lastly just as a general reference, f2 is 15 frames, b1 is 8f(as is the next 1.) I apologise for my overuse of brackets, and I apologise for any incorrect frame data. I leave it at that.
So I was doing a little testing, and I found that f24 is around +2 on block, and the same with b11 I believe. I found this by testing it against Jax's gotcha grab, which is 9 frames, and Raiden's standing 2,which is 10 iirc. If cancelled frame perfect, it will beat Jax's grab. If cancelled fast but not frame perfect, then it will trade, and if not cancelled correctly then it will be beaten. Obviously cancelling into f12 will beat it, but that's not the point. My main theory here is that by LRC f24 into b11, it will be a frame trap that will beat or trade with every non armoured move, depending on how perfect the cancel is. The fastest d1 is 6f, with I believe KL and Ermac(?) amongst a few others possess. Everyone else is 7f upperwards besides those select few. As a result, I believe that as b11 is a mid(obviously) we can frame trap people, and because b11 is also +2(correct me if I'm wrong) we can cancel 3 times(the order would be f24>b11>pressure option, I like 214 as most people will be blocking and take 3.5 chip, or throwing for around 15 after chip.) Lastly just as a general reference, f2 is 15 frames, b1 is 8f(as is the next 1.) I apologise for my overuse of brackets, and I apologise for any incorrect frame data. I leave it at that.