By everyone, I don't mean cabibi. In fact, I enjoy reading posts by cabibi. The problem is, if someone attempts to make a thread involving mature intelligent debate on a subject, someone will start incessantly whining in said thread. Take redbeard and hardwired for instance. This is what I'm getting at. Hell, I'd be happy to go online with cabibi and continually dash him if I had a 360 for him to learn to punish it properly. But unfortunately, for every mature intelligent post in these threads, the majority of the responses are just pissing and whining. Ultimately I find these threads pointless, because the people this SHOULD be helping, just complain instead and continually make excuses.
It gets to the point where all I can reply with is "L2 SMOKE BOMB, HURR DURR!" because to me, the majority of this is just children with keyboards throwing tantrums and making constant excuses. Smoke should never be put into that situation, period.