I watched the stream it was perfect legend who told brady. If this is true than that is stupid. Also wasnt the EX SB for 10% fizzled out after all the patches? I think Smokes EX bomb should work after a air throw for 10% consistently just like Scorpoions hellfire. It costs a bar and would make sense IMO
Nah. He's definitely broken as he is. lol. Character barely has any bad matchups as it is, can take away more than half of the opponent's health with attacks as simple as an AA, and has an invisibility glitch that may seem hard to do and impractical, but the founder can pull it off easily offline. He is the bane of every zoner's existence (right, m2dave ?), and honestly, his Smoke Away/Towards is one of the most fucked up (and greatest) things I've seen in a modern fighter.
I agree he is amazing, probably top 5. The resets and invis glitch are broken but take that out and he is still top 5 but balanced. He owns zoners. Cant poke back at smoke...cant jump in on smoke...cant zone smoke...cant cross up smoke...cant duck against smoke. Thats makes him sound invincible right there but he loses to kung lao and kabal IMO due to his HUGE hit box and slower normals. The only thing Smoke lacks in this game is no low options (thank god he doesnt have a low combo starter OMG that would be worse than the reset lol) and a good wake up since he has no armor. Smoke is BAD on wake up
. Once his reset is out and the stupid invis glitch is removed i really hope people stop complaining (i get the reset is something to complain about though) about Smoke though he is beast but not the most OP character in the game. I just hope that his forward 4 into teleport isnt removed as that is a great set up and gives smoke more than 2 or 3 ways to end a combo. I dont see why that would be removed (kinda dumb, take away his reset dont limit his options for set ups). I agree faded Smoke is very different from the rest of the roster thats why people don't want to try and learn him. Smoke all the way.
It's a very significant nerf that would screw up one of his best set ups. Nothing that would make Smoke shit tier or even below top 10, but it will affect the way I personally play the character.
Yup there is no reason for f4 to get nerfed it isnt anything but to set up another chance for pressure. Reset is the issue NRS not f4 not being able to cancel into tele or invis
Really? you have 10 frames advantage off a block delayed jik? How did I not know this :OSmoke has pretty much no recovery on his jump kick if you hit somebody in their shin or foot with it. This means you can combo off of it anywhere on the screen if your spacing is correct. I'm pretty sure it's a universal property but smoke can really abuse it. This also works when crossing people up, should you be able to actually make that happen
DEEEEEEEP jik > full dash > d1 xx bomb > max height 32 > half dash 3d12 > uppercut. 35%
You can vary your juggle to suit your needs, obviously. This is the most damaging version that I've found, while ending with a 2 xx smoke bomb will do 1% less, be more consistent, and lend itself to oki in the same way that the uppercut would.
What happens if it gets blocked? Well congrats, you've basically just done a JIP. You have at least 10 frames of advantage here, maybe more, put that betch into pressure.
I don't know for sure. It's a big advantage and feels to be something around there though; I've never been poked out of a deep jik > 3d12 on block so either its pretty much guaranteed or nobody tries to poke out because they are unused to reacting to it. The latter is very probable.
Deep jk gives an almost guaranteed throw, think pre patch jip>throw setup.
