Tech Sindel Frame Data

[Somberness]

How to understand this.
Execution (singular | cumulative)
1 - 11
1,1 - 12 | 24
1,1,1 - 12 | 42
1,1,B+2 - 11 | 41
1,1,B+2,4 - 14 | 66
2 - 17, 27 second hit
2,1 - 21 | 47
2,1,2 - 22-39 | 70-87
2,1,B+3 - 16 | 64
3 - 15
3,1 - 21 | 38
3,1,1 - 26 | 66
3,1,B+2 - 29 | 69
4 - 14
4,4 - 21 | 37
4,4,U+3 - 13 | 53
D+1 - 6
D+2 - 12
D+3 - 7
D+4 - 12
B+1 - 16
B+1,2 - 15 | 33
B+2 - 12
B+2,4 - 14 | 36
B+3 - 27
B+3,F+2 - 20 | 51
B+4 - 13
F+1 - 15
F+1,2 - 20 | 42
F+1,2,4 - 14 | 63
F+3 - 19
U+3 - 16
U+4 - 16
Throw - 10
Fireball - 18
Fireball (full screen) - 42
Fireball (air) - 14
Fireball (air, full screen) - 38
Low Fireball - 18
Low Fireball (full screen) - 43
Low Fireball (air) - 14
Low Fireball (air, max range) - 28
Yell - 32
Hair Whip - 20
Step Up - 15, 29 second hit
Power Fireball - 18, 19 second hit
Power Fireball (full screen) - 42, 43 second hit
Power Fireball (air) - 14, 15 second hit
Power Fireball (air, full screen) - 38
Low Fire - 18, 19 second hit
Low Fire (full screen) - 41, 42 second hit
Low Fire (air) - 14, 15 second hit
Low Fire (air, full screen) - 38
Scream - 25
Hair Toss - 20
Step Over - 15, 29 second hit
Queen B - 21

Advantage (block | hit)
1 - 0 | 0
1,1 - 0 | +2
1,1,1 - -5 | +15
1,1,B+2 - -1 | +40, +28
1,1,B+2,4 - -13 | +34, +26
2 - 0 | +4
2,1 - 0 | +3
2,1,2 - 0 | +56, +64
2,1,B+3 - -9 | +46, +54
3 - -7 | +3
3,1 - 0 | +14
3,1,1 - 0 | +34, +23
3,1,B+2 - 0 | +74, +41
4 - -12 |
4,4 - 0 | +52, +40
4,4,U+3 - N/A | +50, +26
D+1 - -13 | +1
D+1 (vs crouch) - -13 | -1
D+2 - -1 | +32, +25
D+3 - -7 | +3
D+3 (vs crouch) - -7 | +10
D+4 - 0 | +12
D+4 (vs crouch) - 0 | +5
B+1 - -13 | +22, +19
B+1,2 - -1 | +67, +55
B+2 - -7 | +41, +29
B+2,4 - -13 | +35, +27
B+3 - -3 | +3
B+3,F+2 - -2 | +66, +55
B+4 - -14 | +10, +2
F+1 - 0 | +10
F+1,2 - 0 | +14
F+1,2,4 - -10 | +46, +29
F+3 - -9 | +46, +29
U+3 - -11 | +30, +13
U+4 - -23 | +51, +39
Forward Throw - N/A | +10
Backward Throw - N/A | +10
Fireball - -15 | +4
Fireball (air, minimum) - -3 | +16
Fireball (full screen) - +9, +29
Low Fireball - -14 | +5
Low Fireball (air, minimum) - -3 | +16
Low Fireball (full screen) - +10, +30
Yell - -29 | +104
Hair Whip - -7 | +17
Step Up - -7 | +17, +21
Power Fireball - -15 | +22, +20
Power Fireball (air, minimum) - -3 | +16
Low Fire - -14 | +22, +18
Low Fire (air, minimum) - -3 | +16
Scream - -29 | +104
Hair Toss - -7 | +17
Step Over - -7 | +15, +8
Queen B - -14 | +12, -5

Duration (whiff | block | hit)
1 - 24 | 24 | 24
1,1 - 40 | 40 | 40
1,1,1 - 66 | 66 | 66
1,1,B+2 - 69 | 69 | 69
1,1,B+2,4 - N/A | 106 | 106
2 - 54 | 54 | 54
2,1 - 71 | 71 | 71
2,1,2 - 90-107 | 90-107 | 90-107
2,1,B+3 - 94 | 94 | 94
3 - 42 | 42 | 42
3,1 - 55 | 55 | 55
3,1,1 - 92 | 92 | 92
3,1,B+2 - 92 | 92 | 92
4 - 46 | 46 | 46
4,4 - 62 | 61 | 61
4,4,U+3 - N/A | N/A | 93
D+1 - 25 | 25 | 25
D+2 - 49 | 41 | 64
D+3 - 20 | 20 | 20
D+4 - 33 | 33 | 33
B+1 - 49 | 49 | 49
B+1,2 - 54 | 54 | 54
B+2 - 39 | 39 | 39
B+2,4 - N/A | 76 | 76
B+3 - 50 | 50 | 50
B+3,F+2 - 73 | 73 | 73
B+4 - 54 | 54 | 54
F+1 - 34 | 34 | 34
F+1,2 - 59 | 59 | 59
F+1,2,4 - 93 | 93 | 93
F+3 - 48 | 48 | 48
U+3 - 54 | 54 | 54
U+4 - 57 | 59 | 59
Forward Throw - 36 | N/A | 137
Backward Throw - 36 | N/A | 121
Fireball - 53 | 53 | 53
Fireball (air, including neutral jump, minimum) - 42 | 42 | 42
Fireball (air, including backwards jump, minimum) - 40 | 40 | 40
Fireball (air, including levitate, minimum) - 47 | 47 | 47
Low Fireball - 52 | 52 | 52
Yell - 61 | 81 | 61
Levitate - 18-1296 | N/A | N/A
Hair Whip - 47 | 47 | 91
Step Up - 56 | 56 | 104
Power Fireball - 53 | 53 | 53
Low Fire - 52 | 52 | 52
Scream - 17-95 (54 no hold/cancel) | 74 | 54
Hair Toss - 47 | 47 | 121
Step Over - 56 | 56 | 124
Queen B - 63 | 62 | 375

Cancel Advantage (block | hit)
1 - +19 | +25
1,1 - +15 | +12
1,1,1 - +17 | +35
2 - +28 | +32
2,1 - +26 | +26
3 - +19 | +28
3,1 - +18 | +29
3,1,1 - +26 | +59, +48
4 - +19 | +33
D+1 - +1 | +15
D+1 (vs crouch) - +1 | +13
D+3 - +2 | +12
D+3 (vs crouch) - +2 | +19
D+4 - +26 | +32
D+4 (vs crouch) - +26 | +25
B+1 - +18 | +54, +49
B+3 - +17 | +22
F+1 - +14 | +22
F+1,2 - +13 | +24
F+1,2,4 - +7 | +62, +45
F+3 - +17 | +72, +55

Miscellaneous
Breaker (when grounded vs grounded opponent) - ~-1, ~-1
Queen B - invincibility on frames 1-2, armor on frames 3-26
3,1 - 2 frame gap
3,1,1 - 8 frame gap
3,1,B+2 - 11 frame gap
4,4 - 2 frame gap
B+3,F+2 - 3 frame gap
F+1,2 - 6 frame gap
F+1,2,4 - 1 frame gap

 

[Somberness]

To get the advantage when doing a levitate cancel, minus 18 from the cancel advantage.

 

[Playpal]

To get the advantage when doing a levitate cancel, minus 18 from the cancel advantage.

Wait, so is 111 levi. cancel an infinite?

 

[Somberness]

Wait, so is 111 levi. cancel an infinite?

No, 17-19 = -2.

 

[Playpal]

No, 19-19 = 0.

I might have read it wrong, but I still don't get it. 111 has a cancel advantage of 35 right? So wouldn't it be 35 - 19?

Probably wrong, since if I applied the same formula to yell, it would jail on paper (which it doesn't in-game).

 

[Somberness]

I might have read it wrong, but I still don't get it. 111 has a cancel advantage of 35 right? So wouldn't it be 35 - 19?

Probably wrong, since if I applied the same formula to yell, it would jail on paper (which it doesn't in-game).

Whoops, I was looking at 1, not 1,1,1. It would be 17-19, which is -2. You have to subtract the levitate cancel duration from the advantage, not add it.

 

[DanCock]

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[DanCock]

I might have read it wrong, but I still don't get it. 111 has a cancel advantage of 35 right? So wouldn't it be 35 - 19?

Probably wrong, since if I applied the same formula to yell, it would jail on paper (which it doesn't in-game).

Also the first 1 hits high so no chance of block infinite


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[Playpal]

My bad, was looking at the hit advantage not the block advantage.

 

[Somberness]

The cancel hit advantage shows why 1~scream and 2~yell combos but 1,1~scream and 2,1~yell do not. Pretty cool, I think.

 

[rev0lver]

I nominate Somberness for most awesome TYM member.

Also, I believe Mr Mileena was saying something along the lines of d4~levi cancel in the corner is a block infinite when looped 4 times, but not after that. It seemed sketchy but is there truth to this? I still don't fully understand how to read the data in terms of cancels.

Double edit: any chance on Kenshi frame data soon?

 

[DanCock]

I nominate Somberness for most awesome TYM member.

Also, I believe Mr Mileena was saying something along the lines of d4~levi cancel in the corner is a block infinite when looped 4 times, but not after that. It seemed sketchy but is there truth to this? I still don't fully understand how to read the data in terms of cancels.

Double edit: any chance on Kenshi frame data soon?

[MENTION=16]REO[/MENTION] discovered that a long time ago but it really never happens in a fight.


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[cirkusfreaksho]

thanks for the info!!!! =)

 

[DanCock]

[MENTION=3937]Somberness[/MENTION] what is the frame data on flight instant air ball.

Also
What's the flight data on hit and blocked

Full flight ~
1- fireball dash
2 - fireball dash instant fireball.


The fireball dash one I like to do a flight fireball then dash into flight cancel just wondering what my frame data looks like when I do that stuff.



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[Mr. Mileena]

SOMBERNESS MARRY ME

 

[DanCock]

SOMBERNESS MARRY ME

Get in line betch!!


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[Somberness]

@Somberness what is the frame data on flight instant air ball.

Also
What's the flight data on hit and blocked

Full flight ~
1- fireball dash
2 - fireball dash instant fireball.

Always coming up with hard things to test! I posted how long a flight cancel fireball takes but I can say that it takes 10 frames before you can do one off a flight, that is why it is slightly slower.
These are just 1 test results but it gives you an idea, done from full screen.
block
- fireball dash flight cancel -6
- fireball dash fireball +12, so you can avoid/counter the fireball
hit
- fireball dash flight cancel +8
- fireball dash fireball +39, have to block the next fireball

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[Shadow Zero Kyo]

Wait I thought 111 jails the opponent but its says here -5 on block?

 

[Somberness]

Could have meant that you can't switch blocking stances between hits.

 

[charlieonline]

2, 21, 311 have very very high advantage. Does this mean you can just 2, levi cancel, grab for free?

 

[DanCock]

2, 21, 311 have very very high advantage. Does this mean you can just 2, levi cancel, grab for free?

no, her foe can still neutral duck.


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[charlieonline]

what if you start mixing in some d3/d4's?

 

[Flagg]

Are some of you using levi cancel to get free throws or to help applying rush down pressure?

 

[BoysBoysBoys]

Somberness would it be possible to check the block advantage after a (hit) 311 levitate (blocked) fireball? Might have to start off with a launcher combo, otherwise 311 levi fireball can combo. What about (blocked) 44 fireball?

 

[Somberness]

Got +12 for the first one, just off the ground for the fireball. -1 for 4,4 regular fireball but 0 for low fireball because it hits a frame later.