I use this alot and didn't even relize it as shazam specific lol or is it..
yeah I noticed, sometimes when me opp is respecting me too much ill do 2 of them backwards than forwards =p or maybe it just mixes them up. that teleport has super armor on some of the last frames of it
Imma take notes from this(b2 - teleport). I've always been punished, I think, when players block atlas torpedo, Does the guy on this vid just wasn't able to react or It was just me not blocking?
Shazam's teleport has no super armor at any point during it's animation......
I can confirm that he has the similar type of "armor" that bane has when he does Venom level 3 charge. Many times during the Shazam vs GL matchup, I'd teleport through his little rocket a little late, but not take any damage, with Shazam still holding dat missile in his chest. I think the point in which this armor shows up is near the end of the teleport, and he's invul during it.
I can confirm that Shazam has no armor near the end of his teleport.
Well I did say " a similar type of armor to Bane's in Venom Level 3 when he does his charge" though i can see where the misunderstanding can come from. Basically, Shazam can teleport through some attacks ( so far its only happened to projectiles so it might be just that), and if timed correctly, he absorbs the projectile and doesn't take damage (see Bane level 3 Venom charge vs Green Lantern Oa Rocket). I would've said "projectile invulnerability" but he doesn't go right through it, like those moves usually do. He makes contact with the projectile, but he doesn't take damage from it or hitstun. So yeah, not actual armor like Grundy, I meant the weird "armor" Bane has on his juiced up level 3 charge attack vs projectiles.
lol you get used to it as you play him in the long run. If you're trying to pick the dude up, look at Phase 3's guide to Shazam, it helped me greatly and I'm beating all the dudebros easily =D
I actually noticed this shortly after my post here. That is an amazingly detailed guide, and I found it very helpful. I'm sure things will get easier once I can finally get the 22>command grab link down online. Unfortunately I play on 360, but I really do appreciate the offer. I can say that if the very unfortunate day comes when Adam gets nerfed, you can expect to see me playing Shazam in tournaments. And, maybe against Supermans. I haven't decided if that's actually a bad matchup for Adam or if he's just that good.
Funkpanda, Cage is right. I was playing yesterday and after I came out of a forward teleport and aquaman threw his trident, Shazam takes the hit but doesnt take any damage or hitstun, basically allowing you a free punish. I don't know when exactly it has this type of armor coming out of the teleport on recovery frames, but it is there against aquaman projectile at least (could be more). I'll record this later when I get a chance because I've had this happen to me several times now.
Please please please record this. I would like to think im not crazy. But I'll admit if I'm wrong.
Shazam is a character with incredible mixup. He isn't supposed to be easy to pick up. This character is very rewarding in that once you do finally get in, the round is pretty much over. You're calling Shazam a bad character not becuase of his faults, but because of yours. Of course superman, deathstroke, and doomsday are easy to pick up. They're also a lot easier to scrub out with, but that doesn't make them better characters in the slightest aside from superman being pretty ridiculous. He has pretty decent range on most of his chains, f12 and b23 being examples of this. J2 beats pretty much everyone air to air in the game, making it an amazing anti air. Plus most characters don't have an AA. You don't need a reversal, if anything, not having one teaches you better mechanics and will make you an overall better player. He does not have a shitty b3, have you seen Adams? Why in the hell would anyone besides Ares and Lantern use f3? He doesn't need a good projectile, the one he has is good enough to trade with other projectiles if you have the life lead, plus he has a teleport. Complaining about inputs being hard really doesn't make him a worse character, I'd use C. Viper as an example but I'm not sure if you know who that is. If they jump back they're pushing themselves into the corner, in which Shazam's mix up is much stronger anyway. And blocking a reversal to punish is part of the risk you take when setting up a vortex, you have to guess as well. Plus you can punish almost every reversal in the game with 22>command grab, or even just a raw command grab.
Terrible range and slow startup on stuff, yeah. Jump 2 is the best air-to-air ever, tho. It's not an anti-air, but hey, use what works, ya know. I'm content with playing characters with bad reversal options. Could you imagine Shazam being able to vortex people to death and if they randomly get a hit, he gets a get-out-of-jail card for free? He's the definition of a momentum-based monster, if you get hit, you gotta hold that. I, surprisingly enough, never used Back 3 outside of combos and punishing random Doomsday charges. Shazam's back 3 is not great, but he doesn't need something like Catwoman's Back 3. Also, the vortex is pretty much guaranteed off Atlas Torpedo meter burn or sweep. I've gotten my setups beaten by reversal when I used AC or HM as my enders, and haven't gotten beaten out for using sweep or AT MB. As for the HM input...... I hate it too, but I've gotten used to it. Over time, it becomes just as natural as the input for his teleports.
I never said he sucks I said he was very difficult to use and it can be disheartening at this point in the game. you're pretty much kicking down open doors but maybe I deserved it.
this is something I can work with better. I guess I understand what and why now, but man it can be tough to get in and get the momentum going.
