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Everyone flipping out because the Spells and Skulls guy isn't a ninja and i'm just sad that fire tornado isn't going to be tourney legal.

What's their hate on for trap/setup moves this game?
 

DDustiNN

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NRS needs to ditch custom variation systems in future titles if it means many of the enjoyable moves aren't ranked or tournament legal.
Or... they just need to drop the damn artificial barriers and custom variations flow in every mode. The whole game was built around customization. It’s the way the game was meant to be played.
 

Dreamcatcher

BaCk FrOm ThE dEaD
Royal Contributor
Everyone flipping out because the Spells and Skulls guy isn't a ninja and i'm just sad that fire tornado isn't going to be tourney legal.

What's their hate on for trap/setup moves this game?
That fire tornado move is the shit too... I was really looking forward to labbing setups with that. Now, unless they change the variation thing I probably won't even mess with it beyond 10 minutes.
 

DDustiNN

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agreed let people have their varaitons the tier list really opens up and you will see the best fighters with all their tool sets.
Right. Funny thing is, after the beta, I remember everyone saying Scorpion will be useless without Misery Blade. Yet I don’t think I’ve played a single Scorpion player who uses it.
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
Right. Funny thing is, after the beta, I remember everyone saying Scorpion will be useless without Misery Blade. Yet I don’t think I’ve played a single Scorpion player who uses it.
I remember those days. Just comes to shows what everybody's potential could be when you have a variety of moves to make YOUR ideal character, not these neutered ass tournament variations. And NO giving us a 3rd variation for each character will NOT help either. Just give us Customs. Problem solved!
 

JSF

Best Worst character Main
Everyone flipping out because the Spells and Skulls guy isn't a ninja and i'm just sad that fire tornado isn't going to be tourney legal.

What's their hate on for trap/setup moves this game?
im more upset that the trailer has one scene where he uses 4 ninja moves and that literally isnt possible in any mode of the game at all. thats just false advertising and lying to the players. but yes they used the ninjas as marketing for him so i get why some people are mad about that
 

cavemold

BIG D POLE .
im more upset that the trailer has one scene where he uses 4 ninja moves and that literally isnt possible in any mode of the game at all. thats just false advertising and lying to the players
hopefully canstill do it ...... you can do ermacs and rains moves in a combo.
 
agreed let people have their varaitons the tier list really opens up and you will see the best fighters with all their tool sets.
I don't get why anyone thinks that'll open things up. It'll likely crunch things down. If you add a variation to every character that's "best possible" that isn't suddenly going to make this an MvC game where everyone has BS that can compete. You're just going to find out that 2 or 3 characters are REALLY fucking broken with a specific combination of moves and everyone will play them.

Then NRS gets to nerf that, and find out that another 2 or 3 characters have a combination that's ALMOST as bad that wasn't being played because of the previous ones.

This happens with all balance, but it's a hell of a lot easier to manage when you have a cast of 50 potential characters (25 characters, 2 variations each) vs 100's to 1000's (25 characters, how ever many possible variations on their movesets).

Full custom will NOT work unless NRS is very dedicated to handling that balance nightmare. They're somewhat lucky in that they at least introduced the idea that some moves are always going to cost more than others to use (2 and 3 slot moves) but it's still a massive task that people just don't respect.
 
This custom variation stuff is the smartest move NRS ever did.
They get to show a bunch of hype moves and combos in the trailers and not even bother balance it out because we can't use 2/3 of it in tournament or ranked.

Whats happens on the streams with 'I gave him this and that' instead of showing what we can actually use, confirms that the customs are just to make characters look more interesting than they are.
 

Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
That’s right, at least in my case. But you know what? All those tournament rules and restrictions also carry over to ranked, and those of us who can’t travel to tournaments like to play ranked. And there are more of us playing online and paying NRS' paychecks than those who attend tournaments.
Ranked is for cheetofingers and high functioning autistics.
 

Marinjuana

Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes
Everyone flipping out because the Spells and Skulls guy isn't a ninja and i'm just sad that fire tornado isn't going to be tourney legal.

What's their hate on for trap/setup moves this game?
I think with the toned down offense that they didn't want to give you too many easy setup tools for throw/strike checks and whatnot.
 

vegeta

Saiyan Prince
Premium Supporter
Right. Funny thing is, after the beta, I remember everyone saying Scorpion will be useless without Misery Blade. Yet I don’t think I’ve played a single Scorpion player who uses it.
That’s because we’re using the tournament variants......
Why use something we can’t use in bracket lol
 

JSF

Best Worst character Main
hopefully canstill do it ...... you can do ermacs and rains moves in a combo.
you misunderstand my friend. the ninjas are all equip moves, there are 4 of them. you are only allowed 3 ability slots. you can not have every ninja in your moveset its literally impossible in any and every mode this game has
 

JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
So I don't want to catch any of you "disappointed" bitches online playing this unhype character thats missing all his good moves in tourney mode. We're still waiting for the Misery Blade community to finish their plate of crow.
I'll still try him out. Do YOU have a fucking problem ?Question mark? :DOGE
 

DDustiNN

MK11 Pocket Guide: Koming Soon to the App Store
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You're just going to find out that 2 or 3 characters are REALLY fucking broken with a specific combination of moves and everyone will play them.
I think if that were the case, we’d have heard about it by now. The whole world isn’t locked in to ranked mode, you know.