Scorpion Change Wishlist

[Chernyy Volk]

 

[spidey300]

I just want ex burning spear to actually do something and for b141 to be special cancellable again

 

[LawAbidingCitizen]

thats actually reasonable requests for scorpion.
Nerfs:
Away HPC costs 2 def bars
Close HPC costs 1 off bar
Spear is -65 up close from -35

Buffs:
Air grab remove damage scaling in combo
B141 special cancelable on hit on first sword
F34 KB remove counter hit requirement and make it trigger in combo 7-10 hits

 

[Hor_PeT]

thats actually reasonable requests for scorpion.
Nerfs:
Away HPC costs 2 def bars
Close HPC costs 1 off bar
Spear is -65 up close from -35

Buffs:
Air grab remove damage scaling in combo
B141 special cancelable on hit on first sword
F34 KB remove counter hit requirement and make it trigger in combo 7-10 hits

Hi.

"F34 KB remove counter hit requirement and make it trigger in combo 7-10 hits"

Why is it a buff? It looks like a nerf to me. Scorpion would lose the fear of safe punish after F3 poke.
And it would not really add any more good damage to scorpion at the end of the combo. I do not understand the point of it.

 

[n1kosh]

Only nerfs:
Teleport can't MB on block and Teleport cancel now costs 2 bars

 

[Elias6999]

He doesn’t need buffs

 

[DeftMonk]

only need one nerf: if you have a wifi connection, game won't allow you to pick reborn online. If you have a wired connection you can pick reborn

 

[Xzyj]

didn't you already create that thread before?

 

[Chernyy Volk]

Only nerfs:
Teleport can't MB on block and Teleport cancel now costs 2 bars

Teleport is block confirmable on MB or not 100% of the time. Practice it.

 

[Chernyy Volk]

He doesn’t need buffs

Stop whining,

 

[Chernyy Volk]

Hi.

"F34 KB remove counter hit requirement and make it trigger in combo 7-10 hits"

Why is it a buff? It looks like a nerf to me. Scorpion would lose the fear of safe punish after F3 poke.
And it would not really add any more good damage to scorpion at the end of the combo. I do not understand the point of it.

I never specified a hit amount.

I didn't do like, an optimized combo or anything, but it does give him more damage ultimately. I can make other short videos and show you if you like. F34 KB currently does mediocre damage. You have to spend 2 bars AND two KB's to even get just over 39%. That's pretty shitty.

 

[Chernyy Volk]

I just want ex burning spear to actually do something and for b141 to be special cancellable again

It used to start combos in the beta, but good luck convincing this crowd that's acceptable.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Teleport cancel should never be used as an offensive tool. Other teleports cannot be special cancelled like this one, thus there has to be a drawback.

1. Teleport cancel ONLY cancels backward and as far as a getup roll would go. Costs defensive bar. This creates a mind game of cancel and not... and allows a hard read punish. This is a rather large nerf... so it should only cost one slot. I personally do not know what i'd put in the last slot for Reborn. Probably the dash move (even tho it sucks and shoudl also get some kind of small buff).
2. Teleport amp only comes out on hit
3. I don't think f34 should be a combo extender on KB. I think the air throw should. I love your air throw idea and i think it should be the combo extender/damage buff one timer.

Your QoL ideas for his strings make sense and i'm down.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

I never specified a hit amount.

I didn't do like, an optimized combo or anything, but it does give him more damage ultimately. I can make other short videos and show you if you like. F34 KB currently does mediocre damage. You have to spend 2 bars AND two KB's to even get just over 39%. That's pretty shitty.

whats the damage on f34 KB teleport amp combo? it has to be around 39% (maybe i'm wrong and that damage is from the burning spear).

 

[Plays2_MX]

...and for b141 to be special cancellable again

 

[Chernyy Volk]

whats the damage on f34 KB teleport amp combo? it has to be around 39% (maybe i'm wrong and that damage is from the burning spear).

You can get up to 42% for it + 2 bars. It's better than the current combo which is f34(KB)~db3(MB), f3, 11~bf1(MB), 212(KB) which does exactly 40% for two KB's and both your offense bars.

Also this leads to Scorpion getting a 50% combo off D2 KB, making his throw read punishes a lot better.

 

[Chernyy Volk]

Teleport cancel should never be used as an offensive tool. Other teleports cannot be special cancelled like this one, thus there has to be a drawback.

1. Teleport cancel ONLY cancels backward and as far as a getup roll would go. Costs defensive bar. This creates a mind game of cancel and not... and allows a hard read punish. This is a rather large nerf... so it should only cost one slot. I personally do not know what i'd put in the last slot for Reborn. Probably the dash move (even tho it sucks and shoudl also get some kind of small buff).
2. Teleport amp only comes out on hit
3. I don't think f34 should be a combo extender on KB. I think the air throw should. I love your air throw idea and i think it should be the combo extender/damage buff one timer.

Your QoL ideas for his strings make sense and i'm down.

Also I don't get this fixation with adjusting out teleport reacts on block. It's 100% block confirmable if you practice it. I haven't dropped a teleport punish in a good while.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

Also I don't get this fixation with adjusting out teleport reacts on block. It's 100% block confirmable if you practice it. I haven't dropped a teleport punish in a good while.

Because it is a stupid idea that ONE move that launches gets to come out on block.

It just shouldn't.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

You can get up to 42% for it + 2 bars. It's better than the current combo which is f34(KB)~db3(MB), f3, 11~bf1(MB), 212(KB) which does exactly 40% for two KB's and both your offense bars.

Also this leads to Scorpion getting a 50% combo off D2 KB, making his throw read punishes a lot better.

I just meant the one bar version. I typically just do NOT spend two bars on any combo because the resources spent isn't worth the gain.
I think the combo i am asking is f34(kb)~teleport amp f3 11 spear

 

[Chernyy Volk]

I just meant the one bar version. I typically just do NOT spend two bars on any combo because the resources spent isn't worth the gain.
I think the combo i am asking is f34(kb)~teleport amp f3 11 spear

It's less than a S4 BnB I can tell you that. I'll retest it later today and see.

 

[spidey300]

It used to start combos in the beta, but good luck convincing this crowd that's acceptable.

what used to start combos? ex burning spear?

 

[Chernyy Volk]

what used to start combos? ex burning spear?

Yes. You can go watch old beta footage and see that.

 

[spidey300]

Because it is a stupid idea that ONE move that launches gets to come out on block.

It just shouldn't.

but there are plenty of special moves that launch that, when meter burned, come out on block

 

[spidey300]

what are you making that face for? do you play scorpion? tell me what that move does ever since they took it away

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

but there are plenty of special moves that launch that, when meter burned, come out on block

such as?