The only way I'd take red hood as a Deathstroke skin is if he was voiced by Jensen Ackles, he had different clash quotes for batman, Nightwing, batgirl etc. and he'd need a different winning pose since Jason doesn't go around killing heroes on his contracts.
So I wonder then, hypothetically if Red Hood ended up not being an all new character and you had a choice of him being a skin without any of the things you just requested or him not being in the game at all, which would you prefer?
You're literally the person he is talking about that isn't willing to compromise.... Everything that you just said can be applied to Hal and John. Everything. John doesn't use constructs in nearly the same way Hal does, it'd be just as different as how Red Hood would be from Deathstroke. Just because they're not related story/plot-wise in the comics doesn't mean that they wouldn't play extremely similar.
If rather not have him, it's not Jason Todd is it. It's just Slade wearing a red hood costume which is just plain stupid to me.
On another forum I made a post saying I'd be happy with a red hood skin as long as they do it right so don't give me your whiny little bull crap. Don't talk like your opinion is greater than mine because you have a different view you arrogant prick.
What, angsty entitled Red Hood army pinched your nerve too?
Does that actually matter? It's a game where an untrained psychotic clown with a crowbar can take on a magical god powered 10 year old .
Wow. That's a little much, don't you think? I simply explained what he was saying, since you pretty much ignored the gist of his post when you replied. I'd be interested to know how I came across as whiny in any of that, but it's alright. Glad to know I made such an impression though.
actually it does matter since this is a fighting game.
Pretty much, they put me off the character.
i would understand the point had he not used Joker since he is someone who is required to be in the game.
That's a very good point my friend.
All I'm saying is that it can easily be argued that John and Hal are not the same character.... Because, you know, they aren't. And I hope that in that you mean that Zatanna doesn't deserve more of a place over Red Hood, because calling people naive for thinking that something as wildly different and varied as magic is going to be the exact same as another character who uses it is kind of off base for someone who wants another gadget/martial arts character.
again you missunderstand the point of what i wrote
The entire debate is irrelevant. Any case you make against one character can be made for or against another. Every fan is going to say there character is more worth it than the next guy. There's no equation for who's distinct enough to warrant a costume over a character.
That's precisely why it doesn't matter. Everything from parapalegics to dogs to hunks of meat have been successful fighting game characters, and plenty of "ordinary sensible" fighting archetypes have turned out fucking awful. If NRS has an idea for a character, it doesn't matter if they're a ninth level shaolin monk or raised by a cup of coffee. They'll find a way to make it play.
Ok, I can see that. I guess my opinion is that we all should try not to get worked up by people stating their reasons for not wanting him (or anyone else in their respective threads), as again, that is supposed to be the purpose for this thread as well. It's not selfish of people to try to give logical reasons and explain themselves lol. But I totally agree with you man, people are gonna want who they're gonna want.
okay how about it does matter because this is injustice and not just "a fighting game". dogs and parapeligics being in fighting game is pretty dumb imo and no characters like that have been in any nrs games. i understand they can make anyone be able to play in the game but that doesnt man the character deserves a spot, hell Alfred could be made playable but should he be a character? no, just because its posible doesnt mean it needs to happen.
There's a bunch of shitty anime games that boasts a million characters, would you really rather have a hundred shitty representations of characters you like, or 20 excellent representations of characters you don't want?This could all be solved by just having OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!! characters.
I know you think there's some magical equation you can plug into a given universe and pull out a list of 20-30 valid fighting game characters, but there isn't. The sooner you accept that, the easier it will be for you to swallow the red hood's not getting in pill.
I don't think that's true in the slightest. Many arguments don't work against certain characters while they do against others. And an equation isn't necessary, some simple reasoning and logic can be used as well. I'm not saying lets use a formula, but thinking about the broad spectrum of things, it can be easier to determine who does deserve what and so on. More people were clamoring for Hood than for John Stewart, so John is a skin. Hood could turn out either way, but the demand for John as a completely separate character wasn't overwhelming. That's one factor that should be taken into consideration. Martian Manhunter was a no brainer. Boon even admitted he should've put him in the initial roster, like his gut told him to. It's rather fair to give certain characters precedence over another, and to have solid reasoning behind it. At least in my opinion.
I was being 100% facetious.
