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Dolphin-Dive

Observer
With the new Invasions/Homelander patch Reptile's damage on S3 combos has apparently been nerfed. Can't say I understand the logic behind this change, especially when they don't formally announce it in the patch notes. I guess they somehow expected us to not notice this? Strange.
 
With the new Invasions/Homelander patch Reptile's damage on S3 combos has apparently been nerfed. Can't say I understand the logic behind this change, especially when they don't formally announce it in the patch notes. I guess they somehow expected us to not notice this? Strange.
WHY!? Why buff a low tier character just to nerf him next patch? And yet cyrax gets buffed back to day 1? How is that fair?
 

Dolphin-Dive

Observer
WHY!? Why buff a low tier character just to nerf him next patch? And yet cyrax gets buffed back to day 1? How is that fair?
Maybe it's because he's been doing so well in majors (sarcasm), can't let Reptile make it into any top 8s, heavens no! Or maybe they just wanted to kick him while he's down, lol, couldn't tell you why.
 
Okay, now am I just bad, or did the patch make reptile's corner 114 optimal impossible? The honeybee one or 114~1~23~2 forceball, far forceball, jump 12 db4.
 

Dolphin-Dive

Observer
Okay, now am I just bad, or did the patch make reptile's corner 114 optimal impossible? The honeybee one or 114~1~23~2 forceball, far forceball, jump 12 db4.
Are you labbing against Homelander? Because it drops on him, haven't had any issues with it working on the rest of the cast. I believe the reason it drops has something to do with him "Floating" in comparison to the rest of the cast.
 
Are you labbing against Homelander? Because it drops on him, haven't had any issues with it working on the rest of the cast. I believe the reason it drops has something to do with him "Floating" in comparison to the rest of the cast.
That's probably it then lol. I had practice with Homelander to try him, and Reptile to test the nerfs. Thanks!
 

scarsunseen

Miley Cyrax®
WHY!? Why buff a low tier character just to nerf him next patch? And yet cyrax gets buffed back to day 1? How is that fair?
Cyrax is better than day 1. Cyrax's net didn't drain meter in the beginning. The current version is the best one lol. I'd like to know NRS's reasoning for this change haha.
 

Dolphin-Dive

Observer
Horizontal Kopter feels good with the MB FC cancel changes, don't know if I'd say Cyrax is one of Reptile's best Kameos now but it certainly feels more viable to play with the "Revert". Still bewildered by this dmg nerf, shoutout to NRS.
 

CanoCano

Apprentice
Probably mentioned already but its worth noting that if Horizontal Kopter hits in the same frame as the second hit of BF2, you can link out of it and it leads to good damage, again it's frame perfect tho
 

PrinceGoro

Apprentice
Hollup, I think his damage overall is worse. I swear my meterless bnb that did 375 is not doing 350.
What combo exactly are you talking about,that dmg drop off sounds a bit excesive compared to what i tested.
My motaro bnb does 426 instead of 431,not that big of s deal,other combos are also in that ball park,old solo optimal for a bar does 391 instead of 400.
 

SnowboardRX

^ You have no idea who this guy is ^
Yeah, I'm more pissed about the damage nerf because they tried to "sneak" it through without making any mention of it in their notes and have been completely quiet about it on social media when everyone is asking about it. The silence is deafening.
Like, NRS, if you're going to nerf my character, at least have the decency to tell me it's happening on purpose.
It's ok, 1 more month-ish until my actual main comes out (Takeda), then they can do whatever they want with Reptile.
 

Dolphin-Dive

Observer
Their communication in general for MK1 has left a lot to be desired. There's no excuse for not documenting any form of change for a character, I don't care if it's 1% less overall damage or one less frame of advantage on a random normal, it needs to be revealed in the patch notes.
 

Krasiox

Noob
Man seeing how many options noob has and how different he is + actually good NEW abilities makes me very sad how Reptile gameplay was designed.... We could have had something amazing if basilisk or something new was a part of his kit. Kameos are all very solid for noob too.
Sad.
 

Krasiox

Noob
So after getting teased with a possible Reptile buff from a video of one of the content creators granted early access to the Ghostface patch, Ive been completely gutted to find out that it didn't make it in the game. Was waiting for a extra patch to come out addressing issues and possibly listing changes they didn't put in the game but since it's been 3 days now Im certain that thing is not getting into the game at least at this point.
Video in question is on Kennys (unroolie) youtube channel. Here you can see how Reptiles death roll bf4 combos after b313
Reptile armor startup
That means values for either b313 or bf4 have been adjusted, probably startup on the bf4 itself, however i wonder if this is a bug or this just got scrapped and didn't make it in the game. I tested it offline and it still has the old property - bf4 will whif after b313. Those are classic towers, so AI has no enhancers.
Anyway i think Reptile is definitely better than launch with the small buffs they gave him, however he would benefit from a faster armored move especially in this forming restand meta, where every character has a break your wakeup tool. Hes not the best zoner and hes not the best upclose too, his acid spit still servers 0 purpose given he has 1 clear best kameo which got nerfed with the patch, which i don't know who it affects more than Reptile in the roster - and he doesn't convert optimally out of it. It's EX and non EX hold version they added is verry useles if u want to trade full screen since startup is abyssmal and unless you are invisible (which goes away on block or on hit) you can't really find ways to apply it. Do you guys think they have more to give him and maybe take away? Invisible guess game that can lead to a flat 5% or over 35% if u guess wrong is a strong tool, but is it really, when you have 90% of the cast launching u with armor?
/rant over
 

Felipe_Gewehr

Twinktile
At this point, the only thing I'd wish for reptile is that his Ex invisibility should be changed entirely. Make it function like MKX ex invisibility, where you could use it during combos and to extend them. Change the animation to his end of round classic "smoke bomb" invisibility.
 

Krasiox

Noob
At this point, the only thing I'd wish for reptile is that his Ex invisibility should be changed entirely. Make it function like MKX ex invisibility, where you could use it during combos and to extend them. Change the animation to his end of round classic "smoke bomb" invisibility.
I mean it's never too late, Geras got adjusted like what now 4 patches back to back ? Feels like Reptile got the short end of the buffs stick looking at what happened with all the changed characters.
 

Krasiox

Noob
So apparently the bf4 is 16f. Here's the AI Reptile doing both versions startup 16f and 21f, tested it against ai on any difficulty. Wondering if that's common for CPU in Mortal Kombat in general