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Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
LORD RAIDEN HAS ARRIVED


Raiden is finally officially out for Ultimate Edition and Fighter Pack 2 holders, and to make your Thunder God play as good as it can be, start out strong with this combo thread! Courtesty of Microsoft for letting some of us play Raiden early

Notes
  • All combos were performed on Competitive Mode Superman. Please do your combos on Supes as well.
  • 'xx' means you're canceling a special move into something. For instance, F3xxDB2 means canceling F3 into DB2, while F3 means finishing the full F3, then doing DB2.
  • DF2 is Shocker. Use DF2 MB if you want to be safe-ish (-8 on block) while not wasting meter if it gets blocked (MB only comes out on hit).
  • DB2 is Vicinity Burst. Use DB2 MB to combo if you want to be fully safe (-2 on block) and get max damage, but you waste a bar of meter if you get blocked.
  • Meterless DB2 shocks the opponent with trait on for a B3 combo.
  • DB1 is Lightning Bolt. Use DB1 MB to combo for max damage off of specific strings (F12, 21, F21). It is also +2 on block, however, it has a large gap if it gets blocked.
    • The strings 11, F12, 21, F21, S3 connect into DB1 MB for max damage (and a couple specific normals like S2).
  • '6f' means 6 frames of startup on the move.
6f Starter
  • F123xxBF3 - 198.65
  • F12B2xxDF2 - 137.46
7f D1 Starter
  • D1xxDF2 - 105.00
8f Starter
  • 112xxDF2 - 149.19
  • 112xxBF3 - 167.48
9f Starter
  • D2, F2, F2, F123xxBF3 - 218.75
10f Mid Starter
  • 21D3xxBF3 - 210.04
  • 21u3, F2, F123xxBF3 - 268.19
13f Starter
  • 3F3, F2, F2, F123xxBF3 - 295.54
13f Low Starter
  • B1xxDF2 - 116.33
  • B11xxDB1 - 137.90
  • B112xxBF3 - 174.96
Anti Airs
  • F1, F123xxBF3 - 211.38
  • D2, F2, F123xxBF3 - 203.66 (consistent)
  • D2, F2xxDB2, F123xxBF3 - 242.79 (inconsistent)
  • D2xxDB2 (hold until it hits), B3, J3, F123xxBF3 - 310.31
6F Starter
  • F12B2(hold), BF3 - 182.97
  • F12B2, F123xxBF3 - 239.72
  • F12B2(hold for ¾ hits), F21xxDB2, B3, step forward, F21xxBF3 - 337.97
8F Starter
  • 112(hold)B3(hold) - 125.03
  • 112B3(hold for ⅗ hits), F12xxBF3 - 164.30
  • 112, D1xxBF3 - 170.19
13F Low Starter
  • B112, F123xxBF3 - 261.82
  • B112(hold), BF3 - 205.07
13F Starter
  • 3B3(hold)xxBF3 - 163.58
  • 3B3(hold for ⅗ hits), F123xxBF3 - 193.34
6F Starter
  • F12B2xxDF2 MB, F123xxBF3 - 275.30
  • F12DB2 MB, B3, J3, F2, F123xxBF3 - 371.46
  • F12xxDB1 MB, B3, walk forward, F2xxDF2 (comes out as Vicinity Burst), F123xxBF3 - 384.50 (side switch)
  • F12DB1 MB, B3, J3, F2, F123xxBF3 - 398.31
  • F12DB1 MB, J3, 3xxBgB (background bounce), B3, J3, F12xxBF3 - 450.24
7F Starter
  • D1xxDF2 MB, 21, F123xxBF3 - 322.04
8F Starter
  • 112xxDF2 MB, 21, F123xxBF3 - 245.07
  • 112xxDB2 MB, B3, F2(whiff)1xxDF2 (comes out as Vicinity Burst), F123xxBF3 - 373.43 (side switch)
  • 112xxDB2 MB, B3, J3, F2, F123xxBF3 - 385.79
10F Starter
  • 21D3xxDF2 MB, 21, F123xxBF3 - 387.63
  • 21D3xxDB2 MB, B3, J3, F2, F123xxBF3 - 428.34
    • Side-switch combo with F2(whiff)1xxDF2 also works, see the 8F starter combo.
  • 21D3xxDF2 MB, 3xxBgB (background bounce), B3, J3, F123xxBF3 492.10
13F Low Starter
  • B1xxDF2 MB, 21, F123xxBF3 - 333.37
  • B1xxDB2 MB, B3, F2(whiff)1xxDF2 (comes out as Vicinity Burst), F123xxBF3 - 364.80 (side switch)
  • B1xxDB2 MB, B3, J3, F123xxBF3 - 378.49
29F MB B3 Starter
  • MB B3, J3, F2, F123xxBF3 - 430.61
  • MB B3, F2(whiff)1xxDF2 (comes out as Vicinity Blast), F123xxBF3 - 412.60 (side switch)
    • On a max range MB B3, input F2(whiff)1xxDB2 instead.
    • F2(whiff)1 can be replaced with walk forward, standing 3, but it doesn't properly connect on a max range MB B3.
30F MB F3 Starter
  • MB F3, J3, F123xxBF3 - 428.31
  • MB F3, step forward, F2xxDF2 (comes out as Vicinity Burst), F123xxBF3 - 425.97 (side switch)
6F Starter (DF2 combo needs improving)
  • F12xxDB1-Orb stop, B3, F2xxDB2, J3, F123xxBF3 - 462.67
  • F12xxDF2 MB, B3, J3, F2, F123xxBF3 - 421.04
  • F12xxDB2 MB, B3, J3, F2xxDB2, J3, F123xxBF3 - 460.47
    • F12 can be replaced with F21 or 21 for slightly more damage.
7F Starter (needs improving)
  • D1xxDF2 MB, 3xxDB2, B3, J2, F123xxBF3 - 427.33
10F Starter
  • 21D3xxDB1-stop Bolt, F2xxDB2, B3, J3, F123xxBF3 - 513.54
  • 21D3xxDB2 MB, B3, forward dash, F2xxDB2, J3, F123xxBF3- 512.89
29F MB B3 Starter
  • MB B3, J3, F2xxDB2, J3, 21xxBF3 - 506.98
30F F3 Starter
  • MB F3, F2xxDB2, J3, F123xxBF3 - 489.92
6F, 8F, 10F and 15F Starter
  • F12xxDB1 MB, 4, F123xxBF3
  • F12xxDB1 MB, 4, BgB, B3, F2xxDB2, F123xxBF3
    • Replace F12 with 11 (8 frame starter), 21 (9F starter) or F12 (15F starter) depending on the situation.
7F Starter
  • D1xxDF2 MB, D2xx4, F123xxBF3
6F Starter
  • F12B2, F12, DB2, F123, BF3 - 276.90
  • (Hard) F123, F123, F123xxBF3 - 321.53
10F Starter
  • 21U3, 3xxDB2, F123xxBF3 - 314.83
12F Starter
  • 3B3, F12xxDB2, F123xxBF3 - 274.38
15F Starter
  • F2B3, F123, F123xxBF3 - 236.76
30F Overhead starter
  • F3, J3, F123, F123xxBF3 - 400.43
13F Low Starter
  • B12, 21, F123xxDB2, F3, F123xxDF2 - 399.50
12F Starter
  • 3F3, 21, F123xxDB2,F3, F123xxDF2 - 415.53
J3 Starter
  • J3, 21, F123xxDB2, F3, F123xxDF2 - 466.63
6F Starter
  • F12xxDB1 MB, F3, 3xxDB2, F123xxBF3 - 394.05
    • Also works off of 21 (10F starter).
10F Starter
  • 21D3xxDF2 MB, 21xxDB2, F123xxBF3 - 426.26
30F MB F3 Starter
  • MB F3, 3xxDB2, 21, F123xxBF3 - 458.96
6F Starter
  • F12xxDF2 MB, J3, 3xxDB2, J3, F123xxBF3 - 474.47
    • Same combo for other starters like 21D3 (10F starter) and F21 (15F starter).
    • Replacing first J3 with F3 gives less damage in all of these combos.
  • F12xxDB1-Bolt stop, J3, 3xxDB2, J3, F123xxBF3 - 485.26
    • Same combo for other starters like 21D3 and F21.
  • F12xxDB2 MB, J3, 3xxDB2, J3, F123xxBF3 - 477.85
    • Same combo for other starters like 21D3 and F21.
7F D1 Starter
  • D1xxDF2 MB, J3, F123xxDB2, F3, F123xxBF3 - 475.59
30F MB F3 Starter
  • MB F3, 3xxDB2, J3, 21, F123xxDF2 - 507.14
6F Starter
  • F12DB1 MB, 4, F123xxDB2, F3, F123xxBF3 - 413.30 (trait nearly runs out)
7F Starter
  • D1xxDF2 MB, D2xx4, F12B2(hold), 3xxDB2, F3, F12 - 310.39 (unfinished combo)
10F Starter
  • 21D3xxDB2 MB, D2xx4, F123xxDB2, F3, F123xxBF3 - 390.17

MASSIVE CREDIT to @Infinite_resign for making most of these combos. He's a combo god.
This combo thread is a work in progress, some values and/or combos themselves are still missing and will be added later.

*RAPTOR UPDATE*
Combos from Noble Raptor, video at the bottom:
Midscreen:
112 BF3
112 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
112B3 HOLD 3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
112 DB2 MB B3 J3 F2 F123 BF3

21U3 F2 F123 BF3

F123 BF3
F12B2 HOLD 2 F2 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
F12 DB1 MB B3 J3 F2 F123 BF3
F12 DB1 MB B3 DASH F2 DF2 F123 BF3
F12 DB1 DB MB B3 DASH 3 DB2 J3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

B1 DB2 MB B3 J3 F2 F123 BF3

D1 DF2 MB 21 F123 BF3
D1 DF2 MB B3 DASH 3 DB2 J3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

F21 DB1 MB B3 J3 F2 F123 BF3
F21 DU MB 21U3 F2 F123 BF3
F21 DU MB 21 DB1 MB B3 J3 F2 F123 BF3
F21 DU MB 21 DB1 DB MB B3 DASH 3 DB2 J3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

F2B3/3B3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
F2B3/3B3 F1 DB2 MB B3 J3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

3F3 F2 F2 F123 BF3
3F3 F2 DB2 MB B3 J3 F123 BF3

F12 BGB B3 J3 F2 F123 BF3
F12 BGB 3 DB2 B3 J3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
D1 DF2 MB 3 BGB 3 DB2 B3 F123 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

Corner:
112 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
112 DB1 MB F3 J3 F123 BF3
112 DB1 MB 4 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

21U3 21 DB2 F123 BF3
21U3 21 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

21D3 DF2/DB2 MB 21 DB2 F123 BF3
21D3 DB1 DB MB J3 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

F12B2/F123 F123 F123 BF3
F12B2 21 21 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
F12/F21 DB1 MB F3 J3 F123 BF3
F12/F21 DB1 MB 4 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
F12/F21 DB1 DB MB J3 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

B1 DF2/DB2 MB 21 DB2 F123 BF3
B1 DB2 MB J3 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
B12 21 21 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

D1 DF2 MB 21 DB2 F123 BF3
D1 DF2 MB J3 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

F21 DUD MB F12B2 21 21 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
F2B3/3B3 F123 F123 BF3
F2B3/3B3 F123 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)

3F3 F21 DB2 F123 BF3
3F3 21 21 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
3F3 F21 DB2 F123 DF2 MB F123 BF3
3F3 DB1 DB MB J3 21 DB2 F3 J3 BF3 (Requires High Voltage)
 
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DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
IMPORTANT SETUPS AND MIXUPS
All caps, bold, in italics and underlined because this is some pretty important stuff and will be expanded as Raiden tech is found

Corner Lightning Orb setup
  • Found by: @Red Raptor
  • F12/11/21/F21 xx DB1 MB, 4, F123xxDB2, F3, 113, DB1 MB.
    • This setup places an orb right on top of the opponent. If they wake up you can just block and they will get hit by the orb. If they don't wake up they have to block the orb, which leaves you quite plus.
    • Details in Raptor's video:
Orb-on-wakeup combos
  • If the orb hits: Orb, F3, 3xxDB2, F123xxBF3 - 364.98
    • This assumes trait has run out before the DB2 hits.
Orb-behind-the-opponent combos
  • Coming soon.
 
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Marinjuana

Up rock incoming, ETA 5 minutes
Don't know if it's known and don't care but thanks to the AI I found that you can combo off of F2B3 and 3B3 in the corner without trait buff using d1, d2 and f1. The juggle is very similar with both but F2B3 seems like a slightly lower juggle and it has a bigger gap before B3. So something like:

F2B3, F12, F12, F123~Superman (226)

3B3, F12, F12, F123~Superman (259)

3B3, F12~DB2, F123~Superman (274)
 

DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
Don't know if it's known and don't care but thanks to the AI I found that you can combo off of F2B3 and 3B3 in the corner without trait buff using d1, d2 and f1. The juggle is very similar with both but F2B3 seems like a slightly lower juggle and it has a bigger gap before B3. So something like:

F2B3, F12, F12, F123~Superman (226)

3B3, F12, F12, F123~Superman (259)

3B3, F12~DB2, F123~Superman (274)
In some situations you can also use 3B3 as a combo extender in the corner, although most of the time 3xxDB2 is better. There's a specific combo that used both 3xxDB2 and 3B3, I'll see if I can find it and put it here.
 

Agilaz

It has begun
Is it just me or is F12B2, F12, DB2, F123, BF3 in the corner an insanely tight link between DB2 and F123? I've not managed to land it once, whereas I've had some success with doing three F123's.
 

DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
Is it just me or is F12B2, F12, DB2, F123, BF3 in the corner an insanely tight link between DB2 and F123? I've not managed to land it once, whereas I've had some success with doing three F123's.
Know that F12B2 on hit recovers really quickly, which means you have to do F12xxDB2 sooner than you may be used to. Practice makes perfect.

Also depends from person to person really, I find the three F123s to be very difficult while that F12B2 combo isn't that tight for me.
 

The_Tile

Your hole is mine!
Will post my trait combos later, I'm pretty sure I've optimised his midscreen and corner damage while in trait and if not its very close.

My mates robbed my controller so I can't even test them until later -.-
 

DarthSatan666

Rock, Paper, Nut Punch
Sorry about that. Without the j2 it does 430

W/trait

3f3,21,21xdb2,f3,j3xsuperman: 430 dmg

There's also

3f3,21,21xdb2,f3,f123,xsuperman: 418dmg

But the f123xsuperman drops a lot
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Middle 1-bar combo: J2, 21xxMB DB1, B3, J3, F123xxSuperman. 426HP.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
I'm just gonna list my go to B&Bs as of now (all of these are in trait unless specified otherwise) enjoy!

MB B3, J3, F2 xx DB2, J3, 21 xx BF3 (506 DAMAGE)

BgB, DB2, B3, J3, F123 xx BF3

*String* xx MB DF2, F2 xx DB2, B3, J3, F123 xx BF3

*String* xx MB DB2, F2 xx DB2, B3, J3, F123 xx BF3

*String* xx MB DB1, F2 xx DB2, B3, J3, F123 xx BF3
 
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Kooron Nation

More Ass and Tits for MK11
I'll go have a check of the damage when I get home, but traited corner combo I found for 1 bar:

MBf3, 3xxdb2, very delayed j3, f12b2, f123xxdf2/bf3.

I'm also very sure you can sneak in another db2 after the f12b2 or after the 3xxdb2, it did near 500 damage if I recall.

Any f3 starter in the corner can connect a s3xxdb2 instantly after the f3 launch withou trait, haven't tried it mid-screen.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
Corner stuff with trait!

MB F3, 3 xx DB2, J3, 21, F123 xx DF2

F123, F123 xx DB2, F3, F123 xx BF3

B12, 21, F123 xx DB2, F3, F123 xx DF2

MB DB1/MB DB2/MB DF2, F3, 3 xx DB2, J3, F123 xx BF3

3F3, 21, F123 xx DB2, F3, F123 xx DF2

21U3, 21, F123 xx DB2, F3, F123 xx DF2

J3, 21, F123 xx DB2, F3, F123 xx DF2
 

DDutchguy

Stand 4'ing airplanes out of the sky
Updated the combo thead:
  • Better formatting so you don't have to scroll through a billion lines of text. Distinguishes between midscreen/corner/trait/no-trait/meterless/1-bar have been separated by use of spoiler tags.
  • Second post that I reserved has been updated with @Red Raptor 's video detailing a corner setup for the Lightning Orb in trait. Err...I haven't actually asked Raptor permission for this so Raptor if you're reading this tell me whether your tech can stay in this thread.
Still gotta update several parts of the combo threads and I'll get on that soon. I'll also see if I can add some of the combos listed in this thread to the OP.