"Prepare to be Astounded!" - Zatanna General Discussion Thread

[Tony at Home]

*** Removed entire setup I had formely posted here because you can be poked out of the startup sooooooo easily ****

 

[Saboteur-6]

Not sure if it's that big a deal but you can teleport to cancel the "trait drop stagger" animation recovery when Hat stance expires.

 

[SaJa]

Finishing her combo with f21 is really good because we can frametrap right after it for a reset with 3.

combo f21 ~ 3, bf1 MB combo.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Finishing her combo with f21 is really good because we can frametrap right after it for a reset with 3.

combo f21 ~ 3, bf1 MB combo.

Yeah, I've done that a couple of times when I don't have meter for the reset. You can just block it though.

 

[uhfutzafooken]

Finishing her combo with f21 is really good because we can frametrap right after it for a reset with 3.

combo f21 ~ 3, bf1 MB combo.

You can also cancel the 3 with DB1 MB which hits overhead and gives you a ton of advantage on block.

 

[SaJa]

Yeah, I've done that a couple of times when I don't have meter for the reset. You can just block it though.

you can block it for sure (and I hope they crouching), but if you try anything else you trapped by the bf1 MB which also makes good chip and allows to a safe backdash.

 

[Incognito]

Even though I'm not that good at this game I need ppl to play with before I leave to school on friday. Add me on xbl at K1LLA INSTINCTZ

 

[JustPressingButtons]

To the people writing the special moves backwards, can you write them in English? This is rediculous at this point.

 

[DarksydeDash]

I missed summer jam 7. Was there any Zatanna?

 

[Incognito]

I missed summer jam 7. Was there any Zatanna?

I think that she was banned...

 

[Incognito]

Also what are you guys using for whiff punishment? I'm using 3 and itlum kcik

 

[DarksydeDash]

Same here unless Its REALLY unsafe I go for b23

 

[Tiger Wong]

Suit & Tie df3 is an otg like WWs air db3 in the corner after her df1. Except it's from anywhere on the screen. For those who don't know what I mean, if you get knockdown and time your suit & tie df3 properly, your opponents wakeup will not come out. Been trying To find guaranteed setups outside of the corner.

Haven't really found anything that can't be rolled from. Well.... B1u3~trait df3 seems pretty solid, but I'm not sure if I like taking away from guaranteed damage to be at +9 in suit & tie.

This forum really needs a dedicated All Things Suit & Tie thread.

 

[Gizmo235]

Just been wondering, in all the videos I'm watching for Zatanna vortex vids, I have two questions.

1. Is there a meterless vortex for her?
2. Why are people ending the vortex with a single J2 instead of a double J2?

 

[Briggs8417]

Just to be sure, is everyone aware that Zatanna has cross up f3 setups?

 

[nightE89]

Just to be sure, is everyone aware that Zatanna has cross up f3 setups?

Yup yup, but my thing is try to get the timing down for further combos

 

[Error]

Might be late to the party, but ending combos in 223 trait DF3 otgs unless the opponent tech rolls. If it's an advancing wake-up and you make the read you can use DB3 armor through it.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Might be late to the party, but ending combos in 223 trait DF3 otgs unless the opponent tech rolls. If it's an advancing wake-up and you make the read you can use DB3 armor through it.

Yes i knew this, but 2,2,3 after juggled opponents doesn't work in the corner... At midscreen idk... What ido is B1,U3~trait~pilar after puppet master, but they can also tech roll...

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Just to be sure, is everyone aware that Zatanna has cross up f3 setups?

I have a tech for this... After 1,1,D3 use F3 <3 i actually made a thread & a video

 

[nightE89]

So much tech lovin it cant wait to try these out.

 

[Briggs8417]

I have a tech for this... After 1,1,D3 use F3 <3 i actually made a thread & a video

Yeah I found the same lol. Cool so long as it's out there.

 

[Tiger Wong]

Been labbing to try to find something that can go into Suit & Tie DF3 OTG and can't be rolled from.

Only thing I found is a Suit & Tie DF3. Which is ok, if you can connect one and you can combo into it off of a Suit & Tie 2.

Otherwise.... no dice.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Just been wondering, in all the videos I'm watching for Zatanna vortex vids, I have two questions.

1. Is there a meterless vortex for her?
2. Why are people ending the vortex with a single J2 instead of a double J2?

1. Yes there is a meterless vortex but it only works in the corner. It involves finishing your combo with f21.
2. A single jump 2 is used because a double j2 actually makes it impossible to properly continue the vortex from the low starter. It pushes them too far out and any jump in after the b1u3 string will whiff. Thus the only ender is a single jump 2. In the corner though, this problem doesn't exist and you can end with a double jump 2.

 

[bs000]

If you were curious about what she says during her super or clash:

 

[Gizmo235]

1. Yes there is a meterless vortex but it only works in the corner. It involves finishing your combo with f21.
2. A single jump 2 is used because a double j2 actually makes it impossible to properly continue the vortex from the low starter. It pushes them too far out and any jump in after the b1u3 string will whiff. Thus the only ender is a single jump 2. In the corner though, this problem doesn't exist and you can end with a double jump 2.

I don't seem to have the problem with any attacks whiffing with a double j2...