Video/Tutorial - Sektor Post Patch Hidden Sektor Nerf

[PND_Ketchup]

Hey guys, just got back in to see if Sektor had any stealth nerfs and I found this immediately. We looked for so long to find post patch missile setups and from my earlier tech thread you'll remember I found a way to guarantee UM's on knockdown that lead to armour breaking and a 50/50 if you committed. This was all at the cost of a bar to MB your B12+4 mid combo.

Unfortunately, the hitstun has been adjusted without being listed in the change log. The opponent now gets up way faster which makes the whole setup impossible. Back to the drawing board it seems. I'm going to be honest, I'm sad about this one. It cost a bar and was unsafe it you went for the 50/50's you compromised a lot of damage for that knockdown for the bar usage. But it is what it is. We fly for hypespotting tomorrow which leaves us no time to actually explore the changes Triborg received.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

Dunno who to tag for this, can anyone help me out?

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Was this it? Sektor was the most balanced of the 4. I can't imagine there aren't any Armour breaking set ups with HKD into up missile, even in the corner?

What do you think of the Cyrax nerfs @PND_Mustard? I know it was a lot but I feel like some of it was necessary.

 

[SaltShaker]

Mind boggling change. I'm trying to come with something now but drawing complete blanks so far.

 

[InFlames]

You're still able to break some armor moves by doing up missile as soon as you meterburn but not with his 50/50s. This shouldn't have been nerfed.

 

[1man3letters]

wow thats a harsh change to not have mentioned in the patch notes :/

 

[Zionix]

I feel you ya.

I hope you and mustard continue to support the game its enjoyable having you in the community.

 

[Chrishaspads]

Sektor is sooo honest now. he had one piece of dirt that didnt break him in anyway. and if anyone even knew about the setup then all they had to do was stay down.

 

[ismael4790]

I liked how the setup worked, but to be honest, the animation of the opponent on the ground after b1 2+4 mb, going like in slow motion...that didn't look like intended.

 

[ryublaze]

@PND_Ketchup The setup still works I'm able to break Kung Lao's EX Spin with s1 and f1 so he still gets a 50/50 except they can armor out of his overhead. I heard it was more of a fix than a nerf because it was causing them to be knocked down longer than usual.

Another stealth change is that f212 backdash at the lowest height doesn't leave them close enough to guarantee a f1 anymore. Not that big of a deal though because it was kind of hard to do anyways.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

@PND_Ketchup The setup still works I'm able to break Kung Lao's EX Spin with s1 and f1 so he still gets a 50/50 except they can armor out of his overhead. I heard it was more of a fix than a nerf because it was causing them to be knocked down longer than usual.

Another stealth change is that f212 backdash at the lowest height doesn't leave them close enough to guarantee a f1 anymore. Not that big of a deal though because it was kind of hard to do anyways.

The setup doesn't really work anywhere near the way it used to work.

You barely have time to get the standing 1 or f1 out. The variety the setup used to give is completely gone. Not hugely sure why you'd spend the bar on this now apart from a super situation jail situation.

 

[TheGangstaFace]

@PND_Ketchup The setup still works I'm able to break Kung Lao's EX Spin with s1 and f1 so he still gets a 50/50 except they can armor out of his overhead. I heard it was more of a fix than a nerf because it was causing them to be knocked down longer than usual.

Another stealth change is that f212 backdash at the lowest height doesn't leave them close enough to guarantee a f1 anymore. Not that big of a deal though because it was kind of hard to do anyways.

Why would you even do this? ._. That wasn't even worth mentioning breh

 

[Ac3s777]

Triborg got fucked in a big way for no reason, and i just got this combo down too

 

[Darth Mao]

I have no chance to lab right now, but try b1~2+4, NJP or NJK, Up Missile.

 

[migosan]

good job nrs, good job, killing honest characters and giving more tools to the bs ones

 

[DDutchguy]

good job nrs, good job, killing honest characters and giving more tools to the bs ones

Please don't tell me you think this killed Sektor. Besides this stealth nerf he wasn't even scratched in the patch (he might have been in the XL patch but the hit advantage on up missiles was unnecessarily high).

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Here's a new setup that breaks Kung Lao's EX Spin's armor. I'm gonna say right now, it's hard to do consistently, but it's something at least. The only ones that it doesn't really work on are Reptile's Slide and Goro's Punchwalk is an obvious nope.

 

[xZoro]

Another stupid nerf that was totally unnecessary.

 

[migosan]

Please don't tell me you think this killed Sektor. Besides this stealth nerf he wasn't even scratched in the patch (he might have been in the XL patch but the hit advantage on up missiles was unnecessarily high).

?? wasn't even scratched in the patch?? he is also triborg right? last time i checked most of his normals got nerfed in this latest patch too, paired up with this one. not to mention the up missile nerf too. add that to the fact that sektor doesn't really have some dirty mixup / setup game to begin with, he was pretty honest and most unsafe compared to the other 3, and for him to get hit this hard, i don't understand why you don't understand haha

 

[Prinz]

Here's a new setup that breaks Kung Lao's EX Spin's armor. I'm gonna say right now, it's hard to do consistently, but it's something at least. The only ones that it doesn't really work on are Reptile's Slide and Goro's Punchwalk is an obvious nope.

How dare you!

 

[DDutchguy]

?? wasn't even scratched in the patch?? he is also triborg right? last time i checked most of his normals got nerfed in this latest patch too, paired up with this one. not to mention the up missile nerf too. add that to the fact that sektor doesn't really have some dirty mixup / setup game to begin with, he was pretty honest and most unsafe compared to the other 3, and for him to get hit this hard, i don't understand why you don't understand haha

The universal Triborg changes were changes to the hit advantage on a lot of strings, which Sektor shouldn't suffer too much from since he doesn't need it that much to connect combos (Cyber Sub can no longer hit F13~Iceball as a result of slower iceball and the hit advantage changes). It doesn't seem like less hit advantage on strings like 111 or 21 matters much to Sektor.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

How dare you!

 

[TheGangstaFace]

The universal Triborg changes were changes to the hit advantage on a lot of strings, which Sektor shouldn't suffer too much from since he doesn't need it that much to connect combos (Cyber Sub can no longer hit F13~Iceball as a result of slower iceball and the hit advantage changes). It doesn't seem like less hit advantage on strings like 111 or 21 matters much to Sektor.

Actually it makes a huge difference especially on his corner game. If i hit you with those and cancel into up missiles then I have less advantage making it easier for you to escape the missiles

 

[DDutchguy]

Actually it makes a huge difference especially on his corner game. If i hit you with those and cancel into up missiles then I have less advantage making it easier for you to escape the missiles

Ending combos in 213 may help with that. I believe it has 25 hit advantage which is close to a lot of the pre-patch hit advantages.

Can't deny that it hurts his corner game a bit. In any case Sektor should probably still be fine.

 

[Reauxbot]

Sektor is sooo honest now. he had one piece of dirt that didnt break him in anyway. and if anyone even knew about the setup then all they had to do was stay down.

Get nut punched fucker. Looks like I'm stuck with Cassie now. You were still making setups work well last night anyways.