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xMWFx616x

Mortal
I have an Adamant Mawile and Dragonite. I see Goodra more as an Mixed attacker tho, especially with Assault Vest or Weakness Policy. I dont have a drillbur tho :(

I dont have ANY of those modest Pokemon except Volcarona (who is gdlk BTW, but that damn stealth rock).

























can i have them? :)
Modest ludicolo is raw especially for a rain team, also modest chandelure is op too. You should try jolly dragonite dragon dance weakness policy is scary.
 

Briggs8417

Salt Proprietor of TYM
Would you prefer that over Hydration? Sliggo with Hydration needs rest and rain dance to be deadly, but Sap Sipper gives him a boost plus opens up his massive movepool.
I think either sap sipper or gooey is the way to go unless you decide to run a rain team then hydration rules. If you want a physical goodra, then sap sipper is probably best, while a standard special tank set would probably prefer gooey.
 

xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
I think either sap sipper or gooey is the way to go unless you decide to run a rain team then hydration rules. If you want a physical goodra, then sap sipper is probably best, while a standard special tank set would probably prefer gooey.


Send sliggoo my way then!
 

ShadowBeatz

Dropper of Bass and Bombs
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Now, is there a way to specially give an IV to a stat or is it completely random?
And I'm guessing breeding with 6IV ditto is the way to go huh?
Think of IV's as DNA. A pokemon with a perfect IV (31) in ATK is going to gain points in ATK at a faster rate then a pokemon with say, a 15 as it's ATK IV (Maybe it'll get +4 in ATK instead of +2 when it levels up). So even if they are the same pokemon with the same level, the "perfect" pokemon will have a higher ATK then the other one (not taking into account Natures and EV's, which are different topics). IV's, just like your DNA, are determined from birth, be that from a pokemon hatching or spawning in the wild when you battle it. There's really nothing that you can do to determine what those IV's are exactly, but you can "influence" them by breeding.

Say you have two pokemon that you want to breed, a Pinser and a Ditto, and their IV spreads are (following the "HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe" format):

Pinser - X/X/X/X/X/X
Ditto - y/y/y/y/y/y


Assuming one pokemon is holding a Destiny Knot (which I would recommend for ANY breeding session), 5 IVs are going to be passed from parent to child. If neither is holding a Destiny Knot, only 3 IVs get passed down. Which IV's get passed down are completely random. So say you hatch an egg. The baby Pinser's IV spread could look something like this:

Baby Pinser - X/y/y/#/X/X

(The capital "X's" are passed from the Pinser and the lower case "y's" are passed from the Ditto. However, because only 5 IV's get passed down, the 6th IV (the "#"), is randomly generated. Keep in mind that the specific stat IVs that get passed down are random too. In this example, everything but Special Attack was passed down, but that's not always going to be the case. I also don't believe that all 5 IVs will ever be passed down from the same parent, but I'm not entirely sure on that.)

This is why having a 6 IV Ditto is ideal. It can breed with any pokemon, and the chances of passing a perfect IV are much greater. If we're breeding Pinsers again:

Pinser - X/X/X/X/X/X
Ditto - 31/31/31/31/31/31


The baby might look like this:

Baby Pinser - 31/X/31/X/#/31 (It got 3 perfect IV's from the Ditto, 2 not-perfect IVs from the Pinser, and a random IV)

Now this is where incest kinda comes in lol. If you replace that Pinser with your new Baby Pinser, the chance of getting a Pinser with 5 perfect IV's increases dramatically, because there are more 31's to pass down.

Baby Pinser - 31/X/31/X/#/31
Ditto - 31/31/31/31/31/31


And so on..... You certainly don't NEED a 6 IV to breed a perfect pokemon. You can breed two Pinsers with 1 perfect IV until you get a Pinser with 2, and then keep breeding and breeding and breeding until you get good parents, but having that Ditto eliminates HOURS of work.

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As far as Natures go, they are randomly generated upon birth as well, but this can also be influenced with an Everstone. Say you want your Pinser to be Adamant. If your Pinser or your Ditto is Adamant then you're good to go. Just make the Adamant parent hold the Everstone and every baby will be born Adamant, since the Everstone ALWAYS passes down that parent's nature (and make sure to make the other parent hold the Destiny Knot). If you don't have an Adamant parent, then you can do three things:

1. Keep breeding Pinsers until you happen to get one with an Adamant nature
2. Breed a male Pokemon that is Adamant and in the same egg group as Pinser (you can find that info on Google) with a female Pinser. (When breeding two different pokemon, the baby pokemon will always be the same as the mother).
3. Trade for an Adamant Pinser :p

Wow that took a lot longer to write then I had originally anticipated and someone has probably already explained it to you more concisely *facepalm* Oh well :D
 
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xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
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Think of IV's as DNA. A pokemon with a perfect IV (31) in ATK is going to gain points in ATK at a faster rate then a pokemon with say, a 15 as it's ATK IV (Maybe it'll get +4 in ATK instead of +2 when it levels up). So even if they are the same pokemon with the same level, the "perfect" pokemon will have a higher ATK then the other one (not taking into account Natures and EV's, which are different topics). IV's, just like your DNA, are determined from birth, be that from a pokemon hatching or spawning in the wild when you battle it. There's really nothing that you can do to determine what those IV's are exactly, but you can "influence" them by breeding.

Say you have two pokemon that you want to breed, a Pinser and a Ditto, and their IV spreads are (following the "HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe" format):

Pinser - X/X/X/X/X/X
Ditto - y/y/y/y/y/y


Assuming one pokemon is holding a Destiny Knot (which I would recommend for ANY breeding session), 5 IVs are going to be passed from parent to child. If neither is holding a Destiny Knot, only 3 IVs get passed down. Which IV's get passed down are completely random. So say you hatch an egg. The baby Pinser's IV spread could look something like this:

Baby Pinser - X/y/y/#/X/X

(The capital "X's" are passed from the Pinser, the lower case "y's" are passed from the Ditto. However, because only 5 IV's get passed down, the 6th IV (the "#"), is randomly generated. Keep in mind that the stat IVs that get passed down are random too. In this example, everything but Special Attack was passed down, but that's not always going to be the case. I also don't believe that all 5 IVs will ever be passed down from the same parent, but I'm not entirely sure on that.)

This is why having a 6 IV Ditto is ideal. It can breed with any pokemon, and the chances of passing a perfect IV are much greater. If we're breeding Pinsers again:

Pinser - X/X/X/X/X/X
Ditto - 31/31/31/31/31/31


The baby might look like this:

Baby Pinser - 31/X/31/X/#/31 (It got 3 perfect IV's from the Ditto, 2 not-perfect IVs from the Pinser, and a random IV)

Now this is where incest kinda comes in lol. If you replace that Pinser with your new Baby Pinser, the chance of getting a Pinser with 5 perfect IV's increases dramatically, because there are more 31's to pass down.

Baby Pinser - 31/X/31/X/#/31
Ditto - 31/31/31/31/31/31


And so on..... You certainly don't NEED a 6 IV to breed a perfect pokemon. You can breed two Pinsers with 1 perfect IV until you get a Pinser with 2, and then keep breeding and breeding and breeding until you get good parents, but having that Ditto eliminates HOURS of work.

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As far as Natures go, they are randomly generated upon birth as well, but this can also be influenced with an Everstone. Say you want your Pinser to be Adamant. If your Pinser or your Ditto is Adamant then you're good to go. Just make the Adamant parent hold the Everstone and every baby will be born Adamant, since the Everstone ALWAYS passes down that parent's nature (and make sure to make the other parent hold the Destiny Knot). If you don't have an Adamant parent, then you can do three things:

1. Keep breeding Pinsers until you happen to get one with an Adamant nature
2. Breed a male Pokemon that is Adamant and in the same egg group as Pinser (you can find that info on Google) with a female Pinser. (When breeding two different pokemon, the baby pokemon will always be the same as the mother).
3. Trade for an Adamant Pinser :p

Wow that took a lot longer to write then I had originally anticipated and someone has probably already explained it to you more concisely *facepalm* Oh well :D

Lol thanks man. This makes perfect sense.

Once I get this Ditto, I guess its best to breed some of my non lucky pokemon (like a modest gyrados -_-), and see if I can get lucky. Either way I'd prefer ANY nature than a modest gyrados lol
 

xMWFx616x

Mortal
Yeah i hate 3v3 man. Really limits what you can do.
Spikes and rocks are pretty much worthless and it's pretty much just a guessing game you don't have the type coverage like in 6v6. I'm gonna whip up a few teams for singles and doubles I'm definetly down for a couple more if you're still on.