I'll have it for you guys tonight. Sorry I drove like 7 hrs. home and was just too tired to stay up by the time I got there lol.
Well here is the thing, what are you trying to do with your bird?
They both essentially do the same thing. Starraptor just hits harder, where Talon Flame hits faster/priority.
...can you create shiny charms?
The thing that really seperates them is their movepools. If you want to use the pokes specifically for flying type moves, then Talonflame is the way to go. However, if yer team lacks fighting type moves, then Staraptor comes in handy for CC. They both serve the same role on a team, but depending on what your team needs you could use one over the other.
Charms? You mean Charmanders? Lol
I disagree.
I like Intimidate with Staraptor, however I also like Priority Tailwind with Talonflame when you're about to die. Depends what your team can benefit from, because you're right, they're about the same otherwise.
Banded Talonflame might not hit as hard, but the thing is it is always a threat. Not only does it have the priority, but it's base speed is 126, and there aren't many pokes that are going to get that fast. On top of that, fully invested with an Adamant nature and a choice band, even with a difference in base attacks he is still going to hurt way more than you want him to hurt you. Life orb Staraptor is only scary if he hits' first, which is pretty much why he is always BL or just barely ever used in OU. His speed is mediocre along with his typing, and I don't ever really come across any that don't have scars because of it. He hits hard enough on his own he doesn't need the life orb boost. Talonflame can also provide Will-O-Wisp support if needed, as well as just U-turn on everything until it's time for him to stay in and brave bird everything to death. (Staraptor can do this too, but just not as easily as Talonflame) It's like I said it depends on what your team needs, but in all honesty if you just need him for brave bird there is no reason to not just use a banded Talonflame. It doesn't hit as hard, but why would you need to hit harder than 146 ATK (maximum potential attack at level 50) + 120 BP from brave bird and flare blitz+ 50% from the band and another 50% from STAB with +1 priority on on flying moves top of that?
I wasn't disagreeing about the coverage. I said strictly from a standpoint of needing flying moves on your team, talonflame is the way to go hands down. Again, it just depends on the needs of your team. The only thing I need my talonfalme for is pivoting, revenge killing, and late game sweeping. I have Will-O-Wisp instead of roost just in case I need that support for something like Aegislash or something. Banding him doesn't really hurt him as much as you'd think. If you send him in know they are about to throw in a Heatran, zapdos or Rotom then you just U-turn out and send in the counter. It's different if you are coming off of a revenge kill, but hey that's why you have 5 other pokes to help you out. Staraptor can have the coverage, but with a life orb it's going to suffer a lot more at the hands of things like scarfchomp, scarfernape, scarfcadrill and a lot of other sweeper/wallbreakers that can hurt really badly and are very VERY common in the OU metagame. I'm not saying to not use Staraptor because he's a very good poke, I'm just saying if you are going to use it just for brave bird, then don't...pick Fawkes lol.
Agreed lol
Well you be on later tonight? At work atm
Im about to be on, and I'll leave it on until I go to bed. Just hmu and lemme know whenyer ready.
It's in the OP, what is yers?
Gimme like ten minutes and I'll hit you up.
