Big D
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Its for more conditioning options, not just another combo string.
Its for more conditioning options, not just another combo string.
Just as you said in your last post... Button pressing. Sorry for explaining so poorly. As you stated, taking a hit would be a pretty bad choice lol. Most people I play scout the b12 and immediately poke or armor because I only get that minimal damage and knocked damn near full screen, hence why I agree with what Big D stated.
Great point. I tend to look at things very mathematically (which is probably a big weakness). That extra frame against say Shinnok where your d1 as Ermac is the same completely changed the meta after the blocked string in my opinion. I have no need as Ermac to use armor to catch pokes or counter pokes unless it will close out the round or match, therefore, making the "auto d1" by Shinnok pretty viable. Ermac must respect, leaving him open to strings instead of literal pokes (basic stuff). That extra frame could protect Ermac from that "auto d1" scenario right? I mean all in theory because I admit I'm out of practice in this beast so I could be wrong in that line of thinking.
well, not necessarily, there will be another set of patches and hotfixes with kombat pack 2, so there is still hope. but also - yes, this should have been done sooner.
for the love of god i choose to stick with nightwolf and ermac in mk9 for 4 years. when everyone in EU and russia left for injustice i freaking stick with it. do i look like a person who runs away? you know what? mb, but im not going to play macro on a competitive level at tournaments for another whole game lifetime span (~3-4y?)
i was being metaphorical. bottom 6 bottom 1 who cares. S+, S, A hell, even A- in some fighting games are tournament viable. but fine, dont believe me, i repost yomi tier list for the second time.
But is that not balanced risk reward? You go for the safe option that might not lead to much or you go for the option that gives you a full combo/vortex but you risk getting punished if they guess right. It's how his B3 and F4 mixups work so why does B12(4) have to be different?
Can't you condition with B12 itself anyway? What would you get differently from B124 that you can't already get from B12?
Don't worry about it, I'm a maths head too lol. Isn't B3 a low crush? I feel like I've had it go over a bunch of my pokes... If so couldn't you use that instead of risking trading or losing by using your own poke?
Great question actually because I've never tried. That b3 is a low but I've never had it low crush by accident, which doesn't at all mean that it won't do it when you aim for a low crush purposefully. I hope we mean the same move here because the b3 is the low option and it really doesn't have any lifting or rising motion that would negate another low attack. There is some backwards lean but I don't think it's enough to avoid an attack and land as well. It's range isn't that great accompanied by slow speed doesn't make it the best candidate but like I said, I've never tried with that move. Maybe I'm confused with the terminology of how you are applying low crush?
It adds an entire new dimension to conditioning.
Yeah B3, his low starter lol. Low crushing as in causing him to avoid lows.
But your options go from B12~unsafe combo option and B124, neutral game to that plus B124~unsafe combo option right? Or am I missing something?
Need to look into that. I'm not seeing it on paper but we all know where theory fighting gets us.
May I direct you to liu kang's 11 or Raiden's b11, kind sir?
I dont see F43 being made any more safer. It seems to be more like the B32 and B34.
If you do the unsafe route it is high risk high reward. That makes sense.
you can dash in and do his f21d2 string as a combo also if you want to continue your vortex try EX soul ball instead of ex lift
actually to continue the vortex, you want to use ex lift so that you can end the combo in the soul ball and get the standing reset into 50/50
Exactly. But that unsafe combo option leads to a standing reset/vortex, leading them to have to respect it; ultimately leading to complete dominance of the up close game.
It beats a lot of NJPS. Especially people who use wake up NJP ( Takeda,kung jin, D'Vorrah, Ninjitsu Scorp etc) . Lift beats all those dumb ass NJPsi meant like a shorter version of it like after a soul ball f4 tele d1 f4 EX soul ball it does maybe 3 or 4 % less than the ex lift ,, i hate EX lift so much its pointless
I was thinking of the exact same changes,
- Cancelable teleports only really work online, he doesn't need this
Completely agree, having that unblockable back would've been great, the major issue is just that it's stupidly slow, both start-up and right before the active frames, I think it worked perfect in MK9, now it's just an input error.
Unfortunately it will never be an unblockable because MoS would just be fucking stupid if it was.
- Lol wut?! He doesn't necessarily need it, it was just my suggestion which I think would give him another option to force pressure. With the amount of tools Inferno Scorp has, I don't see why not for Ermac! No biggie!
It's pretty useless in MoS unless you burn it.
Bro. Inferno is Scorp's worst variation. HF4lyfe.- Lol wut?! He doesn't necessarily need it, it was just my suggestion which I think would give him another option to force pressure. With the amount of tools Inferno Scorp has, I don't see why not for Ermac! No biggie!
- A pushback/stagger would help his defence a little I feel. Only the fastest start ups would be able to punish fully if it is thrown out. Making it ever so slightly better against a percentage of the cast. Again, just an idea from my standpoint of Ermac GP.