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Why Zatanna beats Ares ?
Raven has a full screen projectile, pillar, & full screen pull. Raven doesn't play keep away in the mu. She walks in and forces zatanna to play footsies. Zatanna can't zone Raven.Don't agree with
Aquaman 2-8 (mmh is worse)
Mmh
Death stroke
Raven
Maybe even cyborg (more in zat favour imo)
But everything else is alright.
Like I said aquaman is gayy but mmh is gayyerr..
What makes you think zatanna need to get in on raven anyway? If Ravens being a keep away bi**h than so can zatanna, raven zoning doesn't reach full screen so zatanna can freely zone there and build meter by teleporting away, you can then wait for her trait teleport and punish. No raven I've played has got around it yet to be honest. :/
Nope. It's definitely 5-5 or maybe even in Flash's favour. n-megabytes and I used to run this plenty of times.My only gripe is 5-5 vs flash. Zatanna beats that ass. MB fireball for the win. Sure he can slide under it, but zatanna can still throw projectiles while its out, keeping him pinned. Also his wake ups are kinda ass and zatanna eats that shit up.
Dukes wowo is horribleYh man you have an great Wowo I can remember a few, but your wowo along side dukes was most memorable
He's so simple, but it is confusingly effective for him... :/Dukes wowo is horrible
Out zones him, better movement and air control than him (iirc), Ares ass footsies play into zats game.Why Zatanna beats Ares ?
plz, you just need to play him right,,, fire ball doesn't get you 'that' far, but is useful for ending a round... have you seen this vid tho? at 23:24No way does Zat beat flash. His mad dash and far better footsies are a real problem for her. Like panic said, fireball gets you nothing.
You mean that 7 month online video where Zyphox doesn't know the matchup, drops all his combos and there's significant lag?plz, you just need to play him right,,, fire ball doesn't get you 'that' far, but is useful for ending a round... have you seen this vid tho? at 23:24
Eh, i don't care about her so called "trait chip", chip away, ill just wait... i read something about her trait, then someone wrote about it, but i can't remember who said it on this thread earlier back but someone said when Ravens trait is in use its good for zat, not her, and tbh i agree... offline yh, you may be able to block her pm if you can react to it, normal or delayed, even 'straight' after a ring toss, if you trying walking forward after a ring toss which follows up with pm, if the timing is great on that, then you're most likely caught. then yh.Raven has a full screen projectile, pillar, & full screen pull. Raven doesn't play keep away in the mu. She walks in and forces zatanna to play footsies. Zatanna can't zone Raven.
i mean yh its a while back, but it still works, i've done it one zombiee before. but don't always like the zone option, i sometimes forget im zatanna and i go in and attempt to show flash a cool magic trick and he gets mad and down 2s me :'(You mean that 7 month online video where Zyphox doesn't know the matchup, drops all his combos and there's significant lag?
That's not how the MU plays out offline. No flash who knows the MU will back away from fireball, they'll dash up to meet it. Likewise, Zyphox was dashing at all the wrong moments (although that's probably because of online).
Regardless, both he and Honeybee agree on 5-5.
I'd suspect MU experience or lack of may have played a part here. Just because one flash player backed off from the fireball and ate trait chip doesn't mean that the character has any issues here. Emperor pryce is clearly very solid but I think any Zatanna player would say f21-dfu into b1 is not something you'd be trying on somebody who knows the MU. Do I usually win vs batgirl online? yes. Do I believe this MU to be in Zatannas favour? not at all.plz, you just need to play him right,,, fire ball doesn't get you 'that' far, but is useful for ending a round... have you seen this vid tho? at 23:24
Yh sure man, i like your cyborg btw i think out of all the cast i want to play more cyborgs, hardly any... maybe this weekend or the next shall i send a f-requestGT: Kinetic Balding if your available to run the cyborg mu.
I didn't say her trait was used in the match up. It's not necessary, I was just correcting your misinformation. I don't use it. The ring toss puppet master thing is irrelevant. puppet master will not catch her after ring.Eh, i don't care about her so called "trait chip", chip away, ill just wait... i read something about her trait, then someone wrote about it, but i can't remember who said it on this thread earlier back but someone said when Ravens trait is in use its good for zat, not her, and tbh i agree... offline yh, you may be able to block her pm if you can react to it, normal or delayed, even 'straight' after a ring toss, if you trying walking forward after a ring toss which follows up with pm, if the timing is great on that, then you're most likely caught. then yh.
Either way, i still hate that little raven.
yh man, i completely understand where you are coming from, and i agree, i dont really believe the fire is affective at all, i only use it if they have about 5-10% left and i wanna use trait, but i rarely do that as much.I'd suspect MU experience or lack of may have played a part here. Just because one flash player backed off from the fireball and ate trait chip doesn't mean that the character has any issues here. Emperor pryce is clearly very solid but I think any Zatanna player would say f21-dfu into b1 is not something you'd be trying on somebody who knows the MU. Do I usually win vs batgirl online? yes. Do I believe this MU to be in Zatannas favour? not at all.
Flash gives her trouble, I'd call 6-4 his favour. I explained my reasons for this in previous threads. I wouldn't use fireball in this MU unless I had massive life lead and excess meter.
yh sorry, it kinda just popped into my head, i trust what you're saying and all being a well experienced raven, im just going off my current exp with previous ravens. the whole "ring after pm" thing is just something which caught people 'online' i've havnt gone against any raven offline either so.I didn't say her trait was used in the match up. It's not necessary, I was just correcting your misinformation. I don't use it. The ring toss puppet master thing is irrelevant. puppet master will not catch her after ring.
The only thing she has on Ares is mobility and 50-50's. You can't really zone him due to his teleport and her footsies are just as shit if not worse as his.Out zones him, better movement and air control than him (iirc), Ares ass footsies play into zats game.
Hers are better than his imo, it's the trance that gives her the edge I think, as Ares doesn't have particularly fast projectiles or teleport.The only thing she has on Ares is mobility and 50-50's. You can't really zone him due to his teleport and her footsies are just as shit if not worse as his.
Have I ever faced your Zatanna? :/ if you want to play me now you canIm sorry.. no Flash i faced made me think 5-5, that goes for @Zyphox and @HoneyBee
especially @Zyphox please tell these guys bro.
its not all about footsies.. because IGAU doesnt have footsies.. it has spacing. it also has screen control, which zatanna does WELL. if she wants to keep flash full screen. she can.
if u guys get bodied by flash, then practice the match up. I feel its one of zatannas easiest match ups, flash gets shut down full screen and on wake up.
given it was roughly 4 months ago.. but yeah i won FT 5-1 and then i switched to NW and u bodied me pretty tough. this was when u FIRST FIRST FIRST got XBL and murk forced me to play you lol. I dont play IGAU anymore but its always fun arguing my point with people on here. i dont even have XBL gold right now lolHave I ever faced your Zatanna? :/ if you want to play me now you can
lmao are you seriously basing your MU number on a single online FT5 where you apparently beat me 5-1...? I played deg offline and that shit is even. If you beat me 5-1 I probably didn't know the MU for shit. Your point holds no weight if you can't back it up and that was 4 months ago. A lot can change in 4 months.given it was roughly 4 months ago.. but yeah i won FT 5-1 and then i switched to NW and u bodied me pretty tough. this was when u FIRST FIRST FIRST got XBL and murk forced me to play you lol. I dont play IGAU anymore but its always fun arguing my point with people on here. i dont even have XBL gold right now lol
edit: your name was still KHTC honeybee if that jogs ur memory at all