Overwatch Discussion Thread

[Zoidberg747]

Correct me if Im wrong, but when you are on defensive play I think Torbjorn is kinda broken when you place the turrets on the right spots - Im going on 11+ kill streaks all the time without much effort - just hide repair the turret, lvl up - boom boom boom. I got a feeling he will get nerfed. Feels like playing USF4 Guile patch 1 all over again lol.

Torb is ok on the first point of hybrid maps but thats it. Good teams demolish the turrets and him with ease. He's bottom five in the current meta for sure, but it takes a really coordinated team to take him out before he starts to really become a nuisance.

If anyone wants to talk competitive meta then hit me up. I've been following all the tournaments since closed beta and its super interesting to see how the meta evolves. For instance, everyone thought 2 Winston 2 McCree and 2 Lucio was unstoppable on KOTH maps until Luminosity used a Bastion comp(that was largely considered unviable at the time) and it turned out to completely counter the other one.

The game's still new and its super fun to watch how things are panning out. The thing to remember about balance patches is that they are going to balance based on the highest level, so even if a comp may seem unstoppable to you it might actually end up being not so effective once you and your team get better at coordinating.

 

[Pterodactyl]

Kind of looks like a Pterodactyl.

Just looks awesome to me.

 

[14K]

Torb is ok on the first point of hybrid maps but thats it. Good teams demolish the turrets and him with ease. He's bottom five in the current meta for sure, but it takes a really coordinated team to take him out before he starts to really become a nuisance.

If anyone wants to talk competitive meta then hit me up. I've been following all the tournaments since closed beta and its super interesting to see how the meta evolves. For instance, everyone thought 2 Winston 2 McCree and 2 Lucio was unstoppable on KOTH maps until Luminosity used a Bastion comp(that was largely considered unviable at the time) and it turned out to completely counter the other one.

The game's still new and its super fun to watch how things are panning out. The thing to remember about balance patches is that they are going to balance based on the highest level, so even if a comp may seem unstoppable to you it might actually end up being not so effective once you and your team get better at coordinating.

It will evolve for sure, and i think way past 2 2 2 comps honestly... Balance patch will probably hit around the end of the month, which honestly i feel will tone down McCree a bit specially on his CC range and damage on fan... I personally dont feel any particular way about him but he is among the best characters right now and his usually in most combs in pairs... 2 2 2 with winston is also falling out of fashion with some teams opting out for one zarya and ReinHardt or Winston and RH... Its honestly to soon to say this or that comb will or wont work at the highest lvl, most teams are still experimenting a lot. But we can already tell that some characters really dominate, characters like McCree, Widow, Junkrat right now are at 99% of the comps... Widow falls a tiny bit short compared to the other 2 mostly because there isnt a lot of Reavers and Taimous running around right now... But that will start to change soon.

But i gotta say competitive play for this game is Fun to watch just as much as it is to play... I feel when teams really nail in those awsome formats this game will get ridiculously technical, way more than what it is right now (which is already pretty insane).

 

[Pterodactyl]

I love playing Symmetra so much. I hate how situational she ends up being in certain modes though.

Nothing like placing turrets hidden around health items so enemies trying to heal themselves on the brink of death eat shit mere steps away from salvation.

Also fucking up reinhardts with her shield penetrating mega-buster.

It's all just so...

 

[Breakin Wordzz]

Torb is ok on the first point of hybrid maps but thats it. Good teams demolish the turrets and him with ease. He's bottom five in the current meta for sure, but it takes a really coordinated team to take him out before he starts to really become a nuisance.

If anyone wants to talk competitive meta then hit me up. I've been following all the tournaments since closed beta and its super interesting to see how the meta evolves. For instance, everyone thought 2 Winston 2 McCree and 2 Lucio was unstoppable on KOTH maps until Luminosity used a Bastion comp(that was largely considered unviable at the time) and it turned out to completely counter the other one.

The game's still new and its super fun to watch how things are panning out. The thing to remember about balance patches is that they are going to balance based on the highest level, so even if a comp may seem unstoppable to you it might actually end up being not so effective once you and your team get better at coordinating.

Dbl winston also gets DESTROYED by dbl reaper. Ive watched a couple teams go dbl L dbl zarya and dbl reaper. they speed boost the reapers and zarya puts their shields on them and they 2v6. also their ult combos r fun to watch.

 

[Breakin Wordzz]

I love playing Symmetra so much. I hate how situational she ends up being in certain modes though.

Nothing like placing turrets hidden around health items so enemies trying to heal themselves on the brink of death eat shit mere steps away from salvation.

Also fucking up reinhardts with her shield penetrating mega-buster.

It's all just so...

I think its nice how symmetra has a real place in the meat and has her situational place. Even mccree gets overshadowed by 76 or genji on some maps. Its nice to have other characters me better or worse on some maps.

 

[Breakin Wordzz]

It will evolve for sure, and i think way past 2 2 2 comps honestly... Balance patch will probably hit around the end of the month, which honestly i feel will tone down McCree a bit specially on his CC range and damage on fan... I personally dont feel any particular way about him but he is among the best characters right now and his usually in most combs in pairs... 2 2 2 with winston is also falling out of fashion with some teams opting out for one zarya and ReinHardt or Winston and RH... Its honestly to soon to say this or that comb will or wont work at the highest lvl, most teams are still experimenting a lot. But we can already tell that some characters really dominate, characters like McCree, Widow, Junkrat right now are at 99% of the comps... Widow falls a tiny bit short compared to the other 2 mostly because there isnt a lot of Reavers and Taimous running around right now... But that will start to change soon.

But i gotta say competitive play for this game is Fun to watch just as much as it is to play... I feel when teams really nail in those awsome formats this game will get ridiculously technical, way more than what it is right now (which is already pretty insane).

People are talking about the best way to nerf McCree would be to give him a CD on his Right click (like Lucio). This would imo be a good nerf but it would make him A LOT less fun. This makes McCree take more skill because u have to aim more and his right click flashbang is now like a combo.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

Looking for more competitive players to play with on xbl. Add me if your interested. Gt: ii jdizzle31 ii

If you're still looking for someone add me Takgillo
I play widowmaker and Mccree those are my best ones I m bad but I ll love leveling up

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

I need a damn team in this game. Playing with randoms is not going to work. If anyone here plays on XBox One? Add the gamertag "Thingy" or drop your gamertag in a reply.

Add me I m not the best but I m leveling up
Takgillo

 

[ienjoywinning]

Torb is ok on the first point of hybrid maps but thats it. Good teams demolish the turrets and him with ease. He's bottom five in the current meta for sure, but it takes a really coordinated team to take him out before he starts to really become a nuisance.

If anyone wants to talk competitive meta then hit me up. I've been following all the tournaments since closed beta and its super interesting to see how the meta evolves. For instance, everyone thought 2 Winston 2 McCree and 2 Lucio was unstoppable on KOTH maps until Luminosity used a Bastion comp(that was largely considered unviable at the time) and it turned out to completely counter the other one.

The game's still new and its super fun to watch how things are panning out. The thing to remember about balance patches is that they are going to balance based on the highest level, so even if a comp may seem unstoppable to you it might actually end up being not so effective once you and your team get better at coordinating.

Yeah I've been following the competitive scene aswell and it's been really intresting

 

[Icepick]

I love playing Symmetra so much. I hate how situational she ends up being in certain modes though.

Nothing like placing turrets hidden around health items so enemies trying to heal themselves on the brink of death eat shit mere steps away from salvation.

Also fucking up reinhardts with her shield penetrating mega-buster.

It's all just so...

I actually play her a lot. She's very good at defending Point A. Afterwards, it's time to change.

People are talking about the best way to nerf McCree would be to give him a CD on his Right click (like Lucio). This would imo be a good nerf but it would make him A LOT less fun. This makes McCree take more skill because u have to aim more and his right click flashbang is now like a combo.

I think it would be something very minor like less damage on his Fan. Blizzard does not want to destroy this character. They can also make some other changes like less damage to the Fan if you aim the body but you get full damage if you manage to hit the head. Right now, it's a little dumb since all I see is Flash and Fan.

 

[GAV]

Anybody with any ideas on why neither Battleborn or Overwatch work on my XB1?

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

Anybody with any ideas on why neither Battleborn or Overwatch work on my XB1?

Have you tried any other game?

 

[Zoidberg747]

People are talking about the best way to nerf McCree would be to give him a CD on his Right click (like Lucio). This would imo be a good nerf but it would make him A LOT less fun. This makes McCree take more skill because u have to aim more and his right click flashbang is now like a combo.

They are most likely going to reduce the damage on it so he can't shred tanks as easily.

 

[ienjoywinning]

They are most likely going to reduce the damage on it so he can't shred tanks as easily.

I still stand by that he's fine. It's just that he's so easy to use and he's effective aswell ( don't get me wrong he's probably the best dps in most situations)

If he's gonna get nerfed I just think they should nerf the stun grenade range and that's all

 

[GAV]

Have you tried any other game?

Yes. These are the only two games that do not work.

 

[GAV]

They are most likely going to reduce the damage on it so he can't shred tanks as easily.

I still stand by that he's fine. It's just that he's so easy to use and he's effective aswell ( don't get me wrong he's probably the best dps in most situations)

If he's gonna get nerfed I just think they should nerf the stun grenade range and that's all

I agree with Zoidberg.

 

[Zoidberg747]

I still stand by that he's fine. It's just that he's so easy to use and he's effective aswell ( don't get me wrong he's probably the best dps in most situations)

If he's gonna get nerfed I just think they should nerf the stun grenade range and that's all

You said it yourself, he;s the best dps in most situations, which goes againt the fundamental design of the game(every character is supposed to have a use in theory, but if you need DPS McCree outclasses all the other DPS so bad no one else gets picked in tournaments). The reason he is the best dps is because he can wreck anyone 1v1 no problem. He shreds tanks, blows high mobilities up for free, and can contest and compete with snipers/longer range heroes who otherwise might be able to counter him.

Blizzard developers have said that they never intended him to shred tanks like he does, so they are looking to change his FtH and how effective it is against tanks. My guess would be a damage reduction so it can still take care of lower health heroes if aimed properly but wont be able to take out tanks so easily.

 

[Tokiwartoothxdk]

You said it yourself, he;s the best dps in most situations, which goes againt the fundamental design of the game(every character is supposed to have a use in theory, but if you need DPS McCree outclasses all the other DPS so bad no one else gets picked in tournaments). The reason he is the best dps is because he can wreck anyone 1v1 no problem. He shreds tanks, blows high mobilities up for free, and can contest and compete with snipers/longer range heroes who otherwise might be able to counter him.

Blizzard developers have said that they never intended him to shred tanks like he does, so they are looking to change his FtH and how effective it is against tanks. My guess would be a damage reduction so it can still take care of lower health heroes if aimed properly but wont be able to take out tanks so easily.

if i recall, his FTH shots do the same as his regular shots which, if i remember correctly, is 70 damage which is a absurd amount of damage if all 6 shots hit. moving it down to the 35-40 damage range is probably whats best

 

[WersD]

If only randoms knew we weren't hero locked... it's okay to change to roadhog or genji when the bastion is twerking on your Mei

 

[ienjoywinning]

You said it yourself, he;s the best dps in most situations, which goes againt the fundamental design of the game(every character is supposed to have a use in theory, but if you need DPS McCree outclasses all the other DPS so bad no one else gets picked in tournaments). The reason he is the best dps is because he can wreck anyone 1v1 no problem. He shreds tanks, blows high mobilities up for free, and can contest and compete with snipers/longer range heroes who otherwise might be able to counter him.

Blizzard developers have said that they never intended him to shred tanks like he does, so they are looking to change his FtH and how effective it is against tanks. My guess would be a damage reduction so it can still take care of lower health heroes if aimed properly but wont be able to take out tanks so easily.

He isn't the only dps that gets picked. Genji , pharah? (I guess) soldier , and sonetimes reaper in certain situations and tracer.. etc gets picked over him in some situations.

 

[Zoidberg747]

He isn't the only dps that gets picked. Genji , pharah? (I guess) soldier , and sonetimes reaper in certain situations and tracer.. etc gets picked over him in some situations.

Statistically, McCree has above a 100% pick rate in tournament matches. That means that at least 1, but most likely 2 McCrees are being picked every tournament match. The only reason any of those other heroes get picked is because, as many top players admit, he can become boring to play over and over(same deal with Winston actually).

He's OP and he's getting justifiably nerfed lol.

 

[The Highlander]

Statistically, McCree has above a 100% pick rate in tournament matches. That means that at least 1, but most likely 2 McCrees are being picked every tournament match. The only reason any of those other heroes get picked is because, as many top players admit, he can become boring to play over and over(same deal with Winston actually).

He's OP and he's getting justifiably nerfed lol.

Do you have links to any of the tournament streams? I watch decent casual streamer play the game, and that taught me pretty well, but I'd like to see what the top guys do in certain situations.

 

[ienjoywinning]

Statistically, McCree has above a 100% pick rate in tournament matches. That means that at least 1, but most likely 2 McCrees are being picked every tournament match. The only reason any of those other heroes get picked is because, as many top players admit, he can become boring to play over and over(same deal with Winston actually).

He's OP and he's getting justifiably nerfed lol.

People won't pick a character over a better one in a competitive game with a competitive team that wants to "win" lol. Tracer for example is more useful than Mccree is on koth maps. And soldier for example is great on gibraltor o or whatever it's called on defense. And pharah is insanely good in kings row. People don't pick her because "they are bored"

 

[ienjoywinning]

Statistically, McCree has above a 100% pick rate in tournament matches. That means that at least 1, but most likely 2 McCrees are being picked every tournament match. The only reason any of those other heroes get picked is because, as many top players admit, he can become boring to play over and over(same deal with Winston actually).

He's OP and he's getting justifiably nerfed lol.

I'm fine with the nerfs but please don't tell me he's ideal for every map and every situation because he's not