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alexbib

alexbib

Noob
As Blood God you can do:

f1b2db1,f1b2EXdf1,f2,d2 for 1bar and 41% damage. You end up with some time remaining on the totem too, so it's pretty good!
 
The Great One

The Great One

"I Always d1 Lif-" SHUT UP
_CHINOCUDEIRO_ said:
Im beginning to see different threads of one combo only so I think its a nice a idea to generate a unique combo thread
I´ve taken the idea from other combo threads to use different colors for each variation, and if its universal then uso NO color.
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Notation:
Each line starts with meters used then total percentage e.g.: 1 [36%] is 1 meter used for 36% total damage
(EX) is used here for well EX
xx is for cancel
- is for the next string or ability when not cancelled into, Note: to avoid clutter I didn't space every button press with commas but left whole strings (what the move list calls Kombos) together e.g.: B122
Totem Indicates that this string summons a totem within the combo.
Colours indicate the type. I didn't otherwise separate otherwise them because most combo's are fairly interchangeable other then the last hit.
War God
Blood God
Sun God

Overview:
F2-F2-F2: Highest damage starter – but it is somewhat unsafe and punishable on block – Cannot be cancelled but offers a large juggle window

F1B2: Fast far reaching starter – large juggle - Cancellable – But lower damage then a lot of starters

B14: Decent speed on start-up – Only first hit has notable reach – Second hit is low especially useful for the high mix-up potential with war god

B122: Excellent speed and reach, cancelable though sometimes can’t cancel into Air throw.

114: No reach – high juggle and damage

F34: Slow slow start-up good juggle

DF1 EX – F2 – String – Ender: the primary extender gives a consistent juggle height, with a good follow up potential. It’s weakness is that it can’t always follow onto all strings if the enemy is too low, as such can usually only be used a first extension and rarely as a secondary

DB1 EX – String – Ender: The downside is that this extender cannot always be followed easily, at minimum you may need to use a f1 which offers lower damage

DF3 EX – Only extends in certain situations like the corner but allows for very high damage

DF1 : Ok dmg but terrible frames mean this is mostly only for Blood god

DB2: Sun god: Primary ender best to use in all cases where it will connect
War God: Low reach and bad frames mean this should be avoided

DF2: War god only: Best ender but it often will not connect

DB1: War God only: Pretty decent ender at 17 frames positive, easiest to connect as an ending move by a long shot decent dmg

DF3~EX decent damage if you want to spend the meter, excellent frames

COMBOS:
0 [32%] F2-F2-F2-D2
1 [39%] F2-NJP-F2-F2-B12 xx (EX)DF1-B122 Note this can be cancelled into specials either for more dmg or passive effects

0 [29%] F1B2-F2-F2-F1B2 xx DB2
0 [30%] F1B2-F2-F2-F1B2 xx DF2
1 [34%] F1-B2 xx DB1- D1 xx (EX)DF1-F1-B2 Totem
1 [35%] F1B2 xx (EX) DF1-F2-B122 xx DB1
1 [38%] F1-B2 xx DB1-D1 xx DF1 (EX)-B2-B122 Totem
1 [38%] F1B2-F2B1-4 xx (EX) DF1-B14 xx sun choke
1 [38%] F1B2-F2-F2 xx (EX) DF1-F2-B12 xx DF1
1 [39%] F1B2 xx DB1-D1 xx (EX)DF1-F2-D2 Totem

1 [34%] B14 xx (EX)DB1-F2-D2
1 [36%] B14 xx(EX)DB1-F2-F1B2 xx DF2
1 [37%] B14 xx (EX)DB1-F2-B122 xx DB1 These two are ideal combo's easy to land solid damage with DF2 giving better advantage for 1 less dmg
1 [39%] B14 xx (EX)DB1-F2-F2-B12 xx DF1

1 [12%]B12 xx DB2
1 [35%]B122 xx (EX) DF1-F2-F1B2 xx DB2
1 [38%]B122 xx (EX) DF3-D1-114 xx DB2

0 [20%] 114 xx DF1
1 [37%] 114 xx (EX)DF1-F2-F1B2 xx DB2
1 [40%] 114 xx (EX)DF1-F2-F1B2 xx DF2
1 [42%] 114 xx (EX)DF1-F2-B122 xx DB1

1 [32%] F34 xx (EX)DB1-F1B2 xx DF2
1 [35%]F34 xx (EX)DF1-F2-F1B2 xx DB2
1 [42%]F34 xx (EX)DF3-F2-D1-114 xx DB2

1 [39%] (JI2)-B14 xx (EX)DB1-F2-B122 xx DB1
2 [43%] (JI2)-B14 xx (EX)DB1-F2-B12 xx (EX)DF1-B12 xx DF1

1 [36%] (EX)DB1-F2-B122-DB1
Corner
1 [34%] F1B2-F2-B14 xx (EX)DF1-B14 xx DB2
1 [35%] F34 xx (EX)DF1-F2-F1B2 xx DB2
1 [35%] F1B2 xx (EX)DF1-F2-B122 xx DB1
1 [35%] F1B2-F2-(EX)DF1-F2-B12 xx DF1
1 [37%] 114 xx (EX)DF1-F2-F1B2 xx DB2
1 [38%[ F1B2-F2-F2 xx (EX)DF1-F2-B12 xx DF1
1 [42%]114 xx (EX)DF3-D1-D1-D1-114 XX DB2
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So i usually only play sun god. I don't know if this was answered before somewhere in these thousands of pages of replies but i can't seem to hit most of these combos to the point where i think i'm doing something wrong. I've played inj/mk9 competitively before at locals so i know how to umm play the game but I can't seem to hit

1. the second (f2) after the f1b2, f2, -proceeds to drop combo-
2. B122 and F34 don't link to anti air grab? Is this corner only combo? Cause as of now the only combo i can do is F1B2, F2, -akward pause-, -random ass B1 as they're falling-, MB antiair grab b14, command grab.


What am i doing wrong? And are the combos in the original post still the optimal ones?

Thanks. If anyone helps. XD
 
WaywardStranger

WaywardStranger

Boob
The Great One said:
So i usually only play sun god. I don't know if this was answered before somewhere in these thousands of pages of replies but i can't seem to hit most of these combos to the point where i think i'm doing something wrong. I've played inj/mk9 competitively before at locals so i know how to umm play the game but I can't seem to hit

1. the second (f2) after the f1b2, f2, -proceeds to drop combo-
2. B122 and F34 don't link to anti air grab? Is this corner only combo? Cause as of now the only combo i can do is F1B2, F2, -akward pause-, -random ass B1 as they're falling-, MB antiair grab b14, command grab.


What am i doing wrong? And are the combos in the original post still the optimal ones?

Thanks. If anyone helps. XD
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1. Sounds like you're either too early or too late with your inputs.
2. See below for video examples of B122~AA grab. You're not the only one lamenting the minimal utility of F34. It's a shame it has so few uses. I'd call it bad character design.


 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
The Great One said:
So i usually only play sun god. I don't know if this was answered before somewhere in these thousands of pages of replies but i can't seem to hit most of these combos to the point where i think i'm doing something wrong. I've played inj/mk9 competitively before at locals so i know how to umm play the game but I can't seem to hit

1. the second (f2) after the f1b2, f2, -proceeds to drop combo-
2. B122 and F34 don't link to anti air grab? Is this corner only combo? Cause as of now the only combo i can do is F1B2, F2, -akward pause-, -random ass B1 as they're falling-, MB antiair grab b14, command grab.


What am i doing wrong? And are the combos in the original post still the optimal ones?

Thanks. If anyone helps. XD
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It's a fairly hard combo. Watch the animation and do the f2 once as soon as his arm starts going down. If nothing comes out, you went to early. Basically, start watching the animation to figure out the exact timing you need to hit to get everything to hit, and once you've got it, you'll be able to start getting it more consistently.

Also, some of the combos on the front page are in the wrong place and should be in the corner combo section. This is kind of the problem with only a Mod being able to edit the OP. But if it doesn't work, it was probably supposed to be a corner combo and slipped through the cracks the first time.

If you're just looking for something consistent though, f1b2, f2, 21~EX df1, b14~db2. 21 has a better hit box for hitting people out of the air in front of you than b12 and does the same damage. You can also do b14 for more damage, but it's a little harder to hit, since it requires actual timing and what not.
 
Iced_Taz

Iced_Taz

Characters loyalist :)
Here some 63% with one bar. The good option is ending combos with f12. You will have enough time to active blood sacrafice + totem.

 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
jrock920 said:
what is the best way to combo off the blade toss?
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It's not really a combo starter, more of a pressure tool because it's plus on block. However, if by some miracle someone stands right in front of you and you hit them with the regular blade throw, f1 will hit and you can go from there. This is ridiculously impractical though.

Here's the best use of his blade toss.


Mr Aqua said:
You guys are great though. I didn't think you would have already been messing with this stuff :)
instead of a video heres a quick summary

b122 mb df 3 rc 114 forces a high block into 114 air tackle. Testing this is at least +4. Meaning a b1(10 frame mid) is guaranteed. Only losing in testing so far to low profiling d4's which is messed up, or armor. Giving you time to get sword back after another b122 after the air tackle. You can mixup, df2, OR for another meter mb df3 again. Rinse and repeat and you will gain another meter back.

now a few things about this style of rushdown, its really about baiting armor, and if they know to low profile then you can just d4 after air tackle, which nothing will beat. So you can d4 into a mixup.

If any part of any of this chain of events hits, nothing bad will come of it. 114 air tackle will hit if they press a button during it, or if they get hit by the first 1 then its easy to confirm into meter. If they get hit by any part of b122 mb df3. You get (top of my head) mid 20's? Puts them full screen, and you have time while they are getting hit to toss a full screen god ray that will check them on wake up for at least .5 even if they wake up armor. Teleport might get out.

Corner, same thing, only if b122 mb df3 hits you can actually get a full combo into great damage. You can easily see it hit and catch them with a d1 into 114, f1b2, or 114 into meterless keep in the corner or spend another meter for 40's back into the corner with an EX air tackle.

I would really love to just show you but like I said I am lazy, so i said screw it.

Hopes this helps guys and any questions please ask! or blow me up, that works too. Either way lets get it on
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jrock920

jrock920

Apprentice
Second Saint said:
It's not really a combo starter, more of a pressure tool because it's plus on block. However, if by some miracle someone stands right in front of you and you hit them with the regular blade throw, f1 will hit and you can go from there. This is ridiculously impractical though.

Here's the best use of his blade toss.
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i see some dude do it in a combo video so you are probably right about being impractical lol
 
D. R.

D. R.

Kombatant

Haven't seen the EN db3 mentioned to end a combo with so figured I'd share. Still trying to optimize every facet of Kotal's play but this seems to be the most I could get midscreen combowise. A waste of meter imo but if the match can end with a 50% combo and Kotal has a 9 frame punishment opportunity, then why not.
 
Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
D. R. said:

Haven't seen the EN db3 mentioned to end a combo with so figured I'd share. Still trying to optimize every facet of Kotal's play but this seems to be the most I could get midscreen combowise. A waste of meter imo but if the match can end with a 50% combo and Kotal has a 9 frame punishment opportunity, then why not.
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Well that's some fancy stuff. I didn't realize EX db3 was basically an 8% reset.
 
F

felirx

?_?
mattnin said:
Any video of using D3 as an anti air? I try it and can't seem to figure out the timing.
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Just a quick example of what you could do. This one is missing about 2% damage or so because of the 1,f1b2 string instead of the higher damage b14 version.
The timing for 1, f1 sort of depends on how high you hit the opponent but it's not all that hard. Confirming for F2 is much harder.

If the opponent jumped at further away, the 1 can wiff even though d3 connected. Omitting it for a high enough hit probably works.
 
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Second Saint

Second Saint

A man with too many names.
felirx said:
Just a quick example of what you could do.
The timing for 1, f1 sort of depends on how high you hit the opponent but it's not all that hard. Confirming for F2 is much harder.

If the opponent jumped at further away, the 1 can wiff even though d3 connected. Omitting it for a high enough hit probably works.
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If you're going to spend meter, just use d3, ex df1, f2, f1b2~df2 (34%). Notice that you do not have to cancel the air grab from the d3, so it's still easy to hit confirm and requires very littleexecution. For meterless combo though, d3, f1b2~df2 is pretty good.
 
Michael Bolton

Michael Bolton

Noob
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for all the great info on this thread. I'm stealing every bit of it and should be uploading some of my own tech soon.
 
alexbib

alexbib

Noob
A slight further optimization for Blood God:
f1b2db1,d1EXdf1,f2,b14df1 for 1bar and 42%, and the link isn't as tight as f1b2 after the totem.
 
Michael Bolton

Michael Bolton

Noob
Btw, D. R., awesome find. Situational, of course, but an opportunity for 8% unscaled will definitely have its uses. Doesn't seem as if the opponent can roll out or even armor through, and this ender can be used in multiple combos.
 
Belial

Belial

Kombatant
War god optimal (I belive) 1 bar combos
f2f2f2 b14~exgrab, f2,d2 = 45%
same, but f1b2 starter = 40%
b14exdb1 , f2 f2, f1b2~db1 = 39%
b12~exgrab,f2,b122~db1 = 36%
114~exgrab,f2,b122~db1 = 42%
 
jrock920

jrock920

Apprentice
Belial said:
War god optimal (I belive) 1 bar combos
f2f2f2 b14~exgrab, f2,d2 = 45%
same, but f1b2 starter = 40%
b14exdb1 , f2 f2, f1b2~db1 = 39%
b12~exgrab,f2,b122~db1 = 36%
114~exgrab,f2,b122~db1 = 42%
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any tips on getting the d2 to connect after the f2?
 
GeoffBedlam

GeoffBedlam

Kombatant
Anybody else been experimenting with Air To Air conversions?

I've been able to do ji1, f1b2xxdf2 for 20% fairly consistently but you can also do ji1, f2, f1b2xx:exdf1, f1b2xxdf2 for 34%. Pretty damned good for an Air To Air, if you ask me.
 
Shufflez

Shufflez

Noob
Sun god coner combo with lvl 3 sun choke for anyone dabbling wiht sun god 44% 1 bar and can be extended to 55% 2 bar, + on block so you can continue pressure.

b14xx EX sunstone d1 114xx sun choke ( 44% )
b14xx EX sunstone d1 114xx EX df1 b14xx sun choke( 55% ) ( 67% with blood offering )
 
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Michael Bolton

Michael Bolton

Noob
@GeoffBedlam Kotal's A2As are some of the best. After the jump 1 connects, in War God, F2, F2, F1, B2, Saw Blade gets you 30%. Not bad for no bar and the reach on his 1 is sick. Just don't get overzealous or your opponent will jump kick you out of the air for days.

Btw, it's possible to do three F2s into B1, 4, enhanced Air Takedown, B1, 4, Air Takedown for 41%, but the three F2s aren't very practical. Better to omit one and get 39%, if you want to spend the bar.
 
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