Official Patch Notes & Hotfix Released!

[THTB]

Kl Raiden Cage Kitana Cyrax Kabal Reptile are all better than her. Yes she beats Reptile 7-3 but Reptile has less bad matchups then Mileena. Also Mileena has a hard time against Smoke too.

Reptile is probably only mildly better if he is.

@Nos, in certain matchups, getting a forceball on screen without getting hit out of the startup or just being reaction punished is way easier said than done.

 

[Killphil]

If I had to venture a guess, it'd look like this...

1. Kung Lao.
2. Reptile.
3. Kabal.
4. Raiden.
5. Cyrax.
6. Cage.
7. Sub-Zero.
8. Mileena.
9. Kitana.
10. Liu Kang.

Seems like a fair assessment.

Actually, this could make for a less-argumentative, fun thread. I'll be back.

Yea my friend and I gave our suggestive lists to one another and he won't let Ermac go. He continues to argue the positives that Ermac has while me, being an Ermac mainer, only point out the negatives. We don't seem to be getting anywhere so I thought I'd see how the community would feel about it. Thanks for your input, I never considered mileena or cyrax...hell I don't even have kabal up there but he's one of the few characters I have virtually no time put into.

 

[NRF CharlieMurphy]

If I had to venture a guess, it'd look like this...

1. Kabal
2. Reptile.
3. Mileena
4. Sub Zero
5. Cyrax.
6. Lui Kang
7. Raiden
8. Kung Lao
9. Kitana.
10. Nightwolf

Seems like a fair assessment.

Actually, this could make for a less-argumentative, fun thread. I'll be back.

fixed... joke. I have no idea... I suck at this game. But That is how I feel.

 

[funkdoc]

Its a mixup driven game

no

please tell me what great mixups johnny cage and reptile and raiden have

this is where you go wrong. mk9 isn't about mixups so much as frametraps and zoning. kitana is fine.

 

[Shaylan]

NRS N2 L2 Make a game LAWL.
There, I said it.

 

[Prinz]

Me likes new Jade. Me test new Jade when patch on PS3 installed.

 

[aj1701]

Check the sig....

:congrats:

 

[Noserfatu]

Reptile is probably only mildly better if he is.

@Nos, in certain matchups, getting a forceball on screen without getting hit out of the startup or just being reaction punished is way easier said than done.

Isn't it easy to get a forceball on screen after landing an elbow dash which can easily punish 95% of the moves in the game?


@funkdoc, how can you say its more about frametraps and zoning when they nerfed the best frame-trappers frametraps? I agree that its a lot about zoning which bothers me because, frankly, I think zoning is more effective and easier to execute than rushing down. I get much more satisfaction out of playing rush down characters than zoning characters. I know kitana can zone, but the reason I picked her up in the first place is because her combos are damaging and aesthetically pleasing.. ha

 

[Soul Zonik]

Please, somebody can explain to me what "handcuff" means?

"Smoke
• It’s no longer possible to handcuff opponents with Smoke’s Vibration (Shake) Parry."

What is no longer possible? The oponnent is no more "locked" when you use the parry? That is?

 

[Ironsoulsmasher]

What's it mean when you can no longer true combo off of a string into a 2n1 special move?

Linking a special after a certain string will no longer add to the combo meter?

 

[THTB]

Isn't it easy to get a forceball on screen after landing an elbow dash which can easily punish 95% of the moves in the game?


@funkdoc, how can you say its more about frametraps and zoning when they nerfed the best frame-trappers frametraps? I agree that its a lot about zoning which bothers me because, frankly, I think zoning is more effective and easier to execute than rushing down. I get much more satisfaction out of playing rush down characters than zoning characters. I know kitana can zone, but the reason I picked her up in the first place is because her combos are damaging and aesthetically pleasing.. ha

Of course. But I have to get in the proper range first and not have elbow blocked. When these characters are capable of stuffing Reptile easily, or reaction punishing him, getting into range isn't easy. Again, it's a lot easier said than done. Do you play Reptile at all to understand this...?

Also, no frametraps were lost aside from Raiden and Jax. Jax's was a block infinite, so kinda doesn't count. So that just leaves Raiden.

I'm getting the vibe that you're not really all that well-versed in this game...no offense. >_>

Zonik, handcuff refers to a type of glitch that freezes the opponent unintentionally for a free hit.

Iron, what that means is that a string or normal cancelled into a special will not naturally combo.

 

[PND OmegaK]

Kitana is much higher than 9th lol

 

[THTB]

Even at 9th, though, that's not that bad off.

Btw, after this patch, expect more Noob players lol.

 

[Noserfatu]

Of course. But I have to get in the proper range first and not have elbow blocked. When these characters are capable of stuffing Reptile easily, or reaction punishing him, getting into range isn't easy. Again, it's a lot easier said than done. Do you play Reptile at all to understand this...?

Also, no frametraps were lost aside from Raiden and Jax. Jax's was a block infinite, so kinda doesn't count. So that just leaves Raiden.

I'm getting the vibe that you're not really all that well-versed in this game...no offense. >_>

Zonik, handcuff refers to a type of glitch that freezes the opponent unintentionally for a free hit.

Iron, what that means is that a string or normal cancelled into a special will not naturally combo.

I play reptile to the point where I can easily perform his bnbs and understand the concept of his game. Do I have as much experience as you? Lol, no. I think he's easy to win with against everyone except Kabal and Mileena and, frankly, I think you're overstating the difficulty of putting a forceball on the screen. I understand why you would defend your main when so many people hate the character, though.

Edt: They didn't nerf any Cage frame traps? My mistake, I was thinking of the F3,2 nut punch nerf.

 

[Ironsoulsmasher]

Of course. But I have to get in the proper range first and not have elbow blocked. When these characters are capable of stuffing Reptile easily, or reaction punishing him, getting into range isn't easy. Again, it's a lot easier said than done. Do you play Reptile at all to understand this...?

Also, no frametraps were lost aside from Raiden and Jax. Jax's was a block infinite, so kinda doesn't count. So that just leaves Raiden.

I'm getting the vibe that you're not really all that well-versed in this game...no offense. >_>

Zonik, handcuff refers to a type of glitch that freezes the opponent unintentionally for a free hit.

Iron, what that means is that a string or normal cancelled into a special will not naturally combo.

Since Sonya's 114 received that change, then cancelling into cartwheel wouldn't increase the number of hits in the combo to 5?

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Sub_Crash: Your list makes sense as well. Totally forgot that fucking Shaman of my nightmares...

Broski...with all the armor got. all I need is ex dash punch and it's playtime. Kitana can't send him away. She will be running for her life. Hell, she might reconsider her decision to Marry Liu Kang while Jax is tapping her ass all over the place.

"Once you go black...you're gonna need a wheelchair."

 

[truendymion]

WOW I kinda half-jokingly suggested giving Sheeva armor on startup of EX telestomp, didn't expect them to actually give it to her! That's going to be hell online lol. And Scorp players have been begging for safe takedown for a while now.
Thank god they fixed Cyrax resets and Jax block inf, those were so fucking annoying.

 

[Husteen]

if the negative edge is tweaked considerably for the better I will maybe switch rain from my alternative to one of my mains. Negative edge can be dealt with during combos, during intense battles....NOO.

that reminds me, did anyone who really knows rain find any changes with him in this patch? because the notes say he might or might not have been left alone.
he's a really good character and i'm afraid if they did anything to him it will be a nerf. then again, with all the noob and jade nonsense buffs, rain probably got... idk, total invulnerability to all jump attacks?! XD

but seriously, any changes with rain?

 

[RWDY Nori]

CD Jr says Rain's D3 is a lot better now. I believe he said the range is longer on it?

 

[Husteen]

WOW @ all of you!

i actually have to swallow my vomit now because Brady is the only one smart enough to have brought this up in this thread. even then though, you guys just passed it over lmao.


THE FUCKING INPUT BUG!!! this KILLS MK9! there is a bug on BOTH consoles that drops inputs at random. could happen once a game, could happen 20 times lol.

I have played sub-zero players, be HOLDING down to duck the freeze so as to not block it and give him more meter, then the game makes me stand up and I get hit with the freeze. This happens to a lot of people actually yet NO ONE says anything. half the time in this game you cannot consistently get a d1,d2,d3,d4 because you randomly get a standing version of the attack. combos are dropped because inputs randomly drop, etc..

I read pages of complaints about things but not ONE person besides Tom Brady mentioned this problem. COME THE FUCK ON PEOPLE!! WE ALL NEED TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THIS BUG AND STOP PRETENDING IT DOESNT HAPPEN!!

agreed. i believe this bug has the following effects...
1) Down pokes become standing normals
2) Up+face button attacks become jumps. example, mileena's U4.
3) it's hard to do an "instant uppercut"
4) xrays become block

VERY annoying >.>

 

[Husteen]

Please, somebody can explain to me what "handcuff" means?

"Smoke
• It’s no longer possible to handcuff opponents with Smoke’s Vibration (Shake) Parry."

What is no longer possible? The oponnent is no more "locked" when you use the parry? That is?

that's exactly what it sounds like but this is actually referring to:
reptile throwing a slow forceball
smoke throwing a smoke bomb
smoke parrying the forceball
and then reptile getting stuck in the air for a few seconds. there's a video of it.

it would make more sense to do what you said but you're probably a smoke player and don't want that.
about four different trolls wouldn't get off of me because i said that so i told you first!

 

[Husteen]

CD Jr says Rain's D3 is a lot better now. I believe he said the range is longer on it?

hmm that's pretty cool.... i've never used rain's D3. i always used his D1 so i'm not sure why he needed that lol

 

[TheChad_87]

Anyone care to list top 8-10 in the game? I saw mileena's name getting tossed around and never really considered it.

Just my opinion, but ...

Kung Lao
Raiden
Kabal
Reptile
Kitana
Cyrax
Johnny Cage
Nightwolf
Mileena
Sub-Zero

 

[RWDY Nori]

Hard to make a real case for any top 10 right now considering not everybody has access to this patch yet. It's almost an entirely new game based on everybody having a change. Matchups have changed, strategies, etc. Also, I like how nobody is including Freddy in their top 10, considering his glitch is gone. Like I said, several factors

 

[TheChad_87]

Hard to make a real case for any top 10 right now considering not everybody has access to this patch yet. It's almost an entirely new game based on everybody having a change. Matchups have changed, strategies, etc. Also, I like how nobody is including Freddy in their top 10, considering his glitch is gone. Like I said, several factors

Honestly, He's not even been on my radar since he was so bugged out before and I haven't messed with him since the changes.
And, I mostly agree. Even if everyone did have access to it, it's too soon to be making those types of calls anyway. Some characters may develop completely new strategies to implement that aren't even being showcased, yet.