SonicNinja3532
The Wannabe Prodigy
All of these are heavily unoptimised and largely pointless to do over the standard stuff.
All of these are heavily unoptimised and largely pointless to do over the standard stuff.
I also use the b2 instead of the j2 for the same exact reason which is for trait cancels or just finishing off the meterless version. While yes it does do more damage, it is extremely minimal tho lmao. Only reason I can see using the j2 is just for that little bit of corner carry. Otherwise I just use b2 for the muscle memory for all my trait cancel combos. I might upload a video of all the trait cancel combos I use or combos with trait already active
Up-rang clips opponent mid-air; trait release; f3 or mb df1 depending on range
don't they do it off certain strings?
It's never optimal to not mb the bata. and get juicy damage with b3/f3's or release the trait mid-combo.
Mb batarangs into trait bats isn't even optimal tho. Especially if you're gonna use another bar to reset them. You can get plenty damage without mb uprang. He can hit 400 meterless mid screen on supes, and even 455 with one bar of his grapple. So why use two bars on the mb uprang and grapple when you can get the same or even better damage with just one? The only time I use mb uprang is if I'm in the corner, those anti air situations, and for pressure.
it still has its place
It's only worth it as an anti-air batarang conversion, nothing else.
Also while you can get meterless punishes for easy 350's; it may not open some people up, and it is always better to keep on comboing rather than trying your "optimal starter" which may never get converted into actual damage.
its still good to use mb batarangs in pressure, just to keep em guessing, its not something i would barely use.
His most important optimal combos are his midscreen mb up batarang combos and his corner combos.
If we talking starters (123, 112) off a punish then no that combo is not optimal. If we talking 1 bar with trait then it's still not optimal.
Yes it is lol, this is basically the same combo rewind found midscreen, but since the patch you have to do a j2 at first instead of a j3. And it only works off of standing starters anyway, so why would you list 123?
It is the optimal combo off of up rang(since you arent always gonna use 123 obviously) but the 123 combo does do more damage do fair enough. But, b2 up rang does more damage than the 123 combo so for heavily punishable moves you can use that instead. Thirdly, its still very easy to do the j2 into f3 consistently. Lastly the 123 combo doesnt break 430, it doesnt even break 410.
Ummm I was specifically talking about punishes with 123 rather then 112 since they can be interchangeable. B2 uprang as a punish? That's wild I'll have to check that out lol good looks on that one. And yeah the j2 f3 is very easy I was only referring to the difficulty pre patch with the j3-f3. And that last part I'm pretty sure I was using jump ins for idk what reason so you right on that my fault. With the jump in I think the 123 combo does 422 I think.
Oh you're talking about trait cancel combos? I thought you meant using bats midscreen with already summoned which except for 1 combo isnt really optimal imo. And i tested the midscreen 123 combo, its 409 midscreen.
I was testing the combo without the j2, you shouldnt be giving damage numbers with a jump in starter.
Yeah that was my bad especially since I said off a punish. It's a habit with batman cause most people always include the jump in for whatever reason so I just started to do it too. Nonetheless it does do more than 112
I'm putting together an updated format so either the OP can be updated or a new thread can be made with a more complete format. Could I send you what I have to make sure it's optimal and add/delete other combs?