October 10th Hotfix Notes

[Kaymai]

it didnt become immediately obvious the first time your armored move was stuffed by a normal, without chinking armor?

It didn't occur to me right away. When it happened I was like "wait, what?" and became more befuddled by it. Now I know for certain.

 

[God Confirm]

It didn't occur to me right away. When it happened I was like "wait, what?" and became more befuddled by it. Now I know for certain.

i can see it, it wouldnt be expected at all

 

[VerminatorX]

Will PC get it or history repeats itself?

 

[SneakyTortoise]

Where did I mention Kenjutsu?

As a side note I don't see how Kenjutsu got "demolished" when the main strength of the variation was directly buffed but you're entitled to your opinion.

You're supposed to thank someone for their opinion.

Please re-enroll in the youngmonster school of chivalry

 

[kabelfritz]

Paulo: C'mon guys, we need to fix this bug!

Developers: We've tried everything, we can't find a solution! It can't be done!!

Paulo: Ah sh*t, just remove the god damn armour then!

they could just have given the popup dash punch its own input and leave the armor on the regular one.

 

[deathstroke187]

RIP my main.... It was a good run Jax ill be missing ya brother

 

[The Lone Wolf]

The way I look at it, Kitana players have to spend a bar on ex TS and nothing is guaranteed afterwards. Spending a bar could cost you the match and is not something you just throw out willy nilly wasting a bar, even though it's safe on block.

She is a zoner and basically it's a "get the fuck away/off me" tool, which imo needed the armor, as she is still weak up close (improved but not great)

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

So...let me see if I have this right...

...because Jax now has one particularly shitty MU, against one particular pain in the ass variation of a character...he's being written off as terrible?

Because last time I checked, Jax was/is a really fucking scary individual. Losing one piece of armor isn't going to change that.

You all make me dizzy...

 

[haketh]

The way I look at it, Kitana players have to spend a bar on ex TS and nothing is guaranteed afterwards. Spending a bar could cost you the match and is not something you just throw out willy nilly wasting a bar, even though it's safe on block.

She is a zoner and basically it's a "get the fuck away/off me" tool, which imo needed the armor, as she is still weak up close (improved but not great)

She has rising fans which she can get a solid amount of damage off of with two bar. Zoners having strong reversal tools is not common.

 

[STRYKIE]

Nope

Ermac would still be good without ex push

Ermac as a whole would still be strong, Mystic not so much.

 

[haketh]

Ermac as a whole would still be strong, Mystic not so much.

I think Mystic would still be fine & playable though the others have a chance of surpassing it

 

[AcMilan91]

When it comes for pc?

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

When it comes for pc?

7 months later

 

[LaidbackOne]

So...let me see if I have this right...

...because Jax now has one particularly shitty MU, against one particular pain in the ass variation of a character...he's being written off as terrible?

Because last time I checked, Jax was/is a really fucking scary individual. Losing one piece of armor isn't going to change that.

You all make me dizzy...

One particularly UNWINNABLE MU

Last time i checked Jax lost all of his usable armor except Ex gotcha in Pumped Up.

You make me dizzy...

 

[TheFatal]

guys who tell that jax is good what the feature to play HW jax in your vision ? he lost all his tools: pressure, mid combos after ddf and now his only opportunity to reduce the distance

 

[Vick]

She has rising fans which she can get a solid amount of damage off of with two bar. Zoners having strong reversal tools is not common.

Kenshi, Tanya, Ermac and Warlock Quan all have good armored wakeups no?

 

[ShArp]

@AcMilan91 I feel sorry for you bro :<

 

[Saltea Moonspell]

One particularly UNWINNABLE MU

Last time i checked Jax lost all of his usable armor except Ex gotcha in Pumped Up.

You make me dizzy...

In all seriousness, I cant see the logic of makin' such change. If we stick with the new concept, I think he should have a at least one tool that of price of a bar he could get out of that corner. With the Gottcha he can wipe his ass at best.

 

[Paul the Octopus]

Just an idea - is it viable for Jax to react to clone by doing an energy wave? Doesn't punish but would destroy the clone and reset the situation to neutral, where Sub is now in cooldown and can't clone for a while

 

[Saltea Moonspell]

Just an idea - is it viable for Jax to react to clone by doing an energy wave? Doesn't punish but would destroy the clone and reset the situation to neutral, where Sub is now in cooldown and can't clone for a while

That actually could work. @LaidbackOne, can You share your opinion on this as Jax main please.

 

[VerminatorX]

We were on par with consoles... FOR 6 FUCKING DAYS HAHAHAHA!!

 

[BlackJackSnack]

cry uncle

 

[kantboy-2]

They should just give MB ground pound/wave 2 hits of armor and instead of popping up opponents it should knock them back like when you lose the armor from test your luck/kustom kombat.

That should fix the SZ match up.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

One particularly UNWINNABLE MU

Last time i checked Jax lost all of his usable armor except Ex gotcha in Pumped Up.

You make me dizzy...

I don't wanna come off as "that guy," I really don't...it's just that Jax has never seemed like a particularly weak character to me, even taking the armor off the table, but he's legit one of only three people out of the whole roster I don't have at least a pocket variation of, so at the end of the day I know that I don't know him from a ham sandwich.
That being said, to have one "shit, looks like I'm gonna need a counterpick" matchup out of a hundred, especially against a character that's an much of an across the board pain in the ass as Grandmaster...doesn't seem like a great reason for players to be abandoning ship and calling the man dead before the patch is even a month old.

tl;dr: it sucks for Jax. immensely. but it's the nature of the beast, especially when armor is being taken off the top of the totem pole across the board.

 

[xWildx]

Any complaints about further balance, please send them to Reo. Maybe he'll make another thread about a character he hates.