Noob Saibot General Discussion Thread

[OceanOne]

Just came back to the game after a 3~4 months break. What's the current consensus on variations? Last time I played was when the third variation released and it was very underwhelming. Seeing Double felt good at the time but a bit boring so I decided to stay a Dark Sabbath main only switching to SD on certain match ups.

Any new tech I should be aware of?

 

[fr stack]

Just came back to the game after a 3~4 months break. What's the current consensus on variations? Last time I played was when the third variation released and it was very underwhelming. Seeing Double felt good at the time but a bit boring so I decided to stay a Dark Sabbath main only switching to SD on certain match ups.

Any new tech I should be aware of?

There is no tech lol check the state of the character forums

 

[Nevan_PTF]

It's not a bad thing tho, Noob ain't that tech heavy kinda character. Apart from the restand offered by DS(B1,1+2 xx BF1), there's nothing much going on.

He's a character that rewards solid fundamentals and playing good neutral. Your mind games will come off the restand, jailing and etc, pretty generic.

@OceanOne - in terms of variations stay away from V3 x')

 

[OceanOne]

There is no tech lol check the state of the character forums

Sorry, I meant like new combo paths and stuff.. I've seen a video of a guy playing DS doing 113 into jump kick into D1s in the corner and didn't recall seeing it back when I was active. That's why I thought people could've found new stuff. I'll check the state of the character forum.

Thanks!

 

[OceanOne]

It's not a bad thing tho, Noob ain't that tech heavy kinda character. Apart from the restand offered by DS(B1,1+2 xx BF1), there's nothing much going on.

He's a character that rewards solid fundamentals and playing good neutral. Your mind games will come off the restand, jailing and etc, pretty generic.

@OceanOne - in terms of variations stay away from V3 x')

Yea I was surprised by how I still had some of the fundamentals and muscle memory after taking a break.

Thanks for your reply man, will stay away from V3

 

[Plays2_MX]

Yea I was surprised by how I still had some of the fundamentals and muscle memory after taking a break.

Thanks for your reply man, will stay away from V3

Try V3 against Kotal & Shao Kahn. I've been doing surprisingly well against good Kotals and Shaos using V3.

 

[fr stack]

Sorry, I meant like new combo paths and stuff.. I've seen a video of a guy playing DS doing 113 into jump kick into D1s in the corner and didn't recall seeing it back when I was active. That's why I thought people could've found new stuff. I'll check the state of the character forum.

Thanks!

Do u mean after an amped tele?
I can sort you
113 amp tele dash 4 bf1, d1 ,b1 1+3 tele does 45%
42 or 3 with the restand.
After a jump kick id usually just do f3 f3 d1 d1 b1 1+3 if its a tense match just so i dont drop it but if youre feeling ballsy you can do
Jump kick full dash f3 bf1, d1, b1 1+3 amp tele, dash 113 clone (quick dash) for like 47 i think

 

[OceanOne]

Do u mean after an amped tele?
I can sort you
113 amp tele dash 4 bf1, d1 ,b1 1+3 tele does 45%
42 or 3 with the restand.
After a jump kick id usually just do f3 f3 d1 d1 b1 1+3 if its a tense match just so i dont drop it but if youre feeling ballsy you can do
Jump kick full dash f3 bf1, d1, b1 1+3 amp tele, dash 113 clone (quick dash) for like 47 i think

I tried it here. It was 113 into tele(amp) jump in 3, D1, D1, 113, BF2
It does 402.

I remember practicing the one you mentioned with the spirit ball but now I'm not finding the D1 timing.

I guess just doing the midscreen optimal 113, tele(amp) into 113, 113, BF2 for 41% (in the corner) is the optimal for me right now.

Thanks man!

 

[fr stack]

I tried it here. It was 113 into tele(amp) jump in 3, D1, D1, 113, BF2
It does 402.

I remember practicing the one you mentioned with the spirit ball but now I'm not finding the D1 timing.

I guess just doing the midscreen optimal 113, tele(amp) into 113, 113, BF2 for 41% (in the corner) is the optimal for me right now.

Thanks man!

Once you find the highest point of the stand 4 spirit ball the d1 comes out fine i can land it online 6 out of 10 attempts lol .. practical as fuck i know 8D

 

[Tanya-Fan-28]

I'm a beginner Noob. Been playing him for 2 weeks. I find I use 113, B2 and 212 into tele. When is a good time to use B3 1+3? I find ppl jump over it a lot. I presume its a whiff punish but I use B2 or F4 for whiff punishing by reflex.

 

[OceanOne]

I'm a beginner Noob. Been playing him for 2 weeks. I find I use 113, B2 and 212 into tele. When is a good time to use B3 1+3? I find ppl jump over it a lot. I presume its a whiff punish but I use B2 or F4 for whiff punishing by reflex.

B3 is a move I personally don't use that much. But to contradict myself, it's also one of the most important on my playbook. Because while it works maybe once a match it definitely works that one time and it's usually when I need it most. I usually win close matches with a B3 into Fatal Blow or sometimes even B3 into Tele (amp) for a full combo but this one is risky since I don't know if it's confirmable. I usually predict the guy will press a button instead of crouch blocking but like I said, it's not a good habit to rely on this.

I guess B3 into Tele Amp is a good alternative to B1, 1+3 into Tele Amp in match ups where the opponent has insane range. Like, right now from what I experienced so far B1 1+3 against Joker is a big gamble because he outreaches and outspeeds (is that a word? English is not my first language) the Shadow and he gets a full 30%+ damage full combo.

 

[NoDoubt]

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[Hitoshura]

B3, 1+3 is a gamble, but the risk is worth the reward. It should be used when you're in neutral and you think you've conditioned the opponent enough where they're scared to make moves and is keeping up with your footing. It will throw them off sometimes as they're not expect the b3 low. Sometimes the opponent will hold block and you land the krushing blow for b1, 1+3; however, you don't see it as often because a lot of good players will not block when they're X distance away from Noob and that's due to his neutral tools mostly hitting high. The opponent will usually duck your spirit balls, 113 and f2212.

I'm not sure if this is still the case, because it's been a few months since I last played, but b3 has an option select with teleslam. I used to throw out b3, then input teleslam right away. If the b3 hit the opponent it would confirm into teleslam and I would amplify it to extend into a combo. If the opponent blocked it I just got a b3. I play Dark Sabbath mainly.

 

[Zviko]

Watsup fellows, I just finished creating a custom designed Noob Saibot ensemble. I designed, drew, drafted & constructed it all ! Check out the video and see it in action, worn by me !!

Where's the Saibot though?

 

[Plays2_MX]

B3, 1+3 is a gamble, but the risk is worth the reward. It should be used when you're in neutral and you think you've conditioned the opponent enough where they're scared to make moves and is keeping up with your footing. It will throw them off sometimes as they're not expect the b3 low. Sometimes the opponent will hold block and you land the krushing blow for b1, 1+3; however, you don't see it as often because a lot of good players will not block when they're X distance away from Noob and that's due to his neutral tools mostly hitting high. The opponent will usually duck your spirit balls, 113 and f2212.

I'm not sure if this is still the case, because it's been a few months since I last played, but b3 has an option select with teleslam. I used to throw out b3, then input teleslam right away. If the b3 hit the opponent it would confirm into teleslam and I would amplify it to extend into a combo. If the opponent blocked it I just got a b3. I play Dark Sabbath mainly.

Interesting. How do you input this? I'm totally clueless on his OSs.

 

[Hitoshura]

Interesting. How do you input this? I'm totally clueless on his OSs.

If the OS is still in the game then when inputting b3 immediately slide your finger to down, then hit up. You can't confirm into it. Timing is too tight. That's why they originally made it into an OS. Again, not sure if it's in the game still. Haven't played MK11 since before Nightwold dropped. Just got it again recently.

 

[fr stack]

Watsup fellows, I just finished creating a custom designed Noob Saibot ensemble. I designed, drew, drafted & constructed it all ! Check out the video and see it in action, worn by me !!

Wow thats godlike !!

 

[OceanOne]

How do you guys feel about the Joker match up? It feels like he was made to counter Noob and probably other characters that rely on mid/long range punishing.

 

[Tanya-Fan-28]

B3 is a move I personally don't use that much. But to contradict myself, it's also one of the most important on my playbook. Because while it works maybe once a match it definitely works that one time and it's usually when I need it most. I usually win close matches with a B3 into Fatal Blow or sometimes even B3 into Tele (amp) for a full combo but this one is risky since I don't know if it's confirmable. I usually predict the guy will press a button instead of crouch blocking but like I said, it's not a good habit to rely on this.

I guess B3 into Tele Amp is a good alternative to B1, 1+3 into Tele Amp in match ups where the opponent has insane range. Like, right now from what I experienced so far B1 1+3 against Joker is a big gamble because he outreaches and outspeeds (is that a word? English is not my first language) the Shadow and he gets a full 30%+ damage full combo.

Hey thanks for the knowledge. I'd imagine B3 is mostly good against Jade, Kabal & Joker. Everyone else in the roster seems like it requires a hard read. Outreaches a valid word, you're good lol.

 

[Metzos]

How do you guys feel about the Joker match up? It feels like he was made to counter Noob and probably other characters that rely on mid/long range punishing.

For SD, its not that hard, since you can try and counter poke him if he decides to zone you with jack in the box (v2 Joker). Regarding his other two variations i believe Noob wins against him. Against v2 its not that bad. If you corner him you have the adv, if he corners you he has the adv. In the end its player vs player.

 

[OceanOne]

For SD, its not that hard, since you can try and counter poke him if he decides to zone you with jack in the box (v2 Joker). Regarding his other two variations i believe Noob wins against him. Against v2 its not that bad. If you corner him you have the adv, if he corners you he has the adv. In the end its player vs player.

I see... Well I guess I'll pick SD against him then. I'll se how it goes.

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

in my experience with noob, very rangy normals that outrange my normals is usually tougher than characters without range.

Joker def got range lol. and the sick stagger frames to back it up.

 

[Plays2_MX]

Anyone up tonight for some Noob mirrors? PSN: Plays2

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

I think TheMightyUnjust is playing the best noob right now on any streams and sets I've seen online.

He's freakin mastered staying within Noob's effective range and whiff punishing / kountering everything coming at him.
A lot of what he does is beyond me, I just can't react like that, but one thing I notice is he seems to backdash way way way way more than me (as opposed to my walk back).

 

[Zer0_h0ur]

Anyone have tips on how to approach the Sindel and Joker matchup?

I feel like I just get engulfed by the range of their strings and normals. Like I know Noob has range but theirs seems to throw me off.
Any tips?