Tech New Ermac vortex technology

[Metzos]

Ok so i was at the lab with Ermac yesterday and i did B2 and then teleport. After that i went for the unblockable. Seems that its much easier to connect it than 12 teleport. The AI opponent was set on jumping ofc. Check it out and tell me what you guys think about it.



EDIT : Props to Loogie for findings and posting it. Good find man.

 

[charlieonline]

so it's fully charged b2 unblockable into teleport?

 

[Roko1985]

Ok so i was at the lab with Ermac yesterday and i did B2 and then teleport. After that i went for the unblockable. Seems that its much easier to connect it than 12 teleport. The AI opponent was set on jumping ofc. Check it out and tell me what you guys think about it.



EDIT : Props to Loogie for findings and posting it. Good find man.

Do you mean b2 again after teleport? Can you post some video or explain it a little bit better?

 

[KamikazeJD]

That seems like a coo mixup, hows the damage? I honestly was kinda iffy bout the vortex because I never use 121. But ill check it out now for sure

 

[Creepy00]

Video?

 

[Creepy00]

I think i know what [MENTION=6696]metzos13[/MENTION] refers to. After a b2(uncharged or half, not full) teleport, it pushes and puts the opponent on a stagger motion as scorpion vortex game, giving you a free jump setup. However, it isnt a good as scorpion since it will only work on grounded opponent and opponent recovers bit faster? You can also do this with 12 teleport. New or not, it is another tool.

 

[Ermaculate_Slim]

Krayzie as doing it tonight at EGP Thunderdome it seems very effective

 

[Metzos]

I think i know what [MENTION=6696]metzos13[/MENTION] refers to. After a b2(uncharged or half, not full) teleport, it pushes and puts the opponent on a stagger motion as scorpion vortex game, giving you a free jump setup. However, it isnt a good as scorpion since it will only work on grounded opponent and opponent recovers bit faster? You can also do this with 12 teleport. New or not, it is another tool.

After teleport you dash in (no jp) and do the unblockable. Its mostly a setup. It depends when you will release B2 and that mindfucks the opponent. If he jumps backwards for example you can always cancel it and go for a TKS. If he attempts a cross-up you can cancel with backdash and 1 AA the opponent and then lift. Its all about the mixups. If the opponent decides to down poke you can always release the B2 to hit your opponent. Yeah this move is very fast believe it or not.

 

[Metzos]

Do you mean b2 again after teleport? Can you post some video or explain it a little bit better?

I ll give you the commands. jp B2 ( not unblockable) teleport dash B2 charge setups.

 

[Metzos]

so it's fully charged b2 unblockable into teleport?

Nope just B2 canceled to teleport.

 

[charlieonline]

i tried doing it i dont get it.. if you cancel b2 and tele the guy is just gonna block your teleport

 

[Roko1985]

I ll give you the commands. jp B2 ( not unblockable) teleport dash B2 charge setups.

I didn't try it yet , but what if the oponent block the not charged b2 and you do teleport, cause is not hitt comfirmed...........?Do you get punished?

 

[Metzos]

I didn't try it yet , but what if the oponent block the not charged b2 and you do teleport, cause is not hitt comfirmed...........?Do you get punished?

B2 on block cant be special canceled. You have to hit confirm it. Plus not charged B2 on block is full combo punishable anyway.

 

[Metzos]

i tried doing it i dont get it.. if you cancel b2 and tele the guy is just gonna block your teleport

You sure you are doing it right ?

 

[charlieonline]

well the guy said to cancel the b2 then teleport... when you mean cancel you you mean a complete cancel like a dash or just release it halfway or somethin?

i tried 12 tele b2 and the b2 whiffed also

 

[Ermaculate_Slim]

B2 on block cant be special canceled. You have to hit confirm it. Plus not charged B2 on block is full combo punishable anyway.

So its risky to do huh?I dont like to take risk unless I have to.

 

[Metzos]

well the guy said to cancel the b2 then teleport... when you mean cancel you you mean a complete cancel like a dash or just release it halfway or somethin?

i tried 12 tele b2 and the b2 whiffed also

What i mean by cancel B2 into teleport is that you must HIT with B2 first and then give the command of the teleport. Also after the teleport you need to dash in and then use B2. If you do B2 after the teleport ofc it will whiff

 

[charlieonline]

k hang on trying it out..

edit:

ok so its full b2 charge tele dash b2 charge into lift. i did it with ex lift into jump kick tele 22 push. you could probably follow with 22 ex push tele into another b2 charge lawlz

 

[16 Bit]

Why not just b+2~lift? Am I missing something?

 

[charlieonline]

but why would u guys do the dash b2 after the tele when you can just lift?

 

[Metzos]

Why not just b+2~lift? Am I missing something?

Its a new ''vortex'' tech for using teleport as a combo except 12 tele for mixups.

 

[Ermaculate_Slim]

You could do that I guess......but B2+teleport has good mix up potential.I probabaly wont use it myself cause I like to play it safe

 

[Metzos]

but why would u guys do the dash b2 after the tele when you can just lift?

Pity i dont have the equipment to show you what i mean. The command is: B2( not full charge) d,b 4. The point of this thread is that a new way of linking the teleport into a setup combo was found. The only one we knew Ermac had until now was 1,2 d,b 4.

 

[16 Bit]

Its a new ''vortex'' tech for using teleport as a combo except 12 tele for mixups.

But wouldn't b+2~teleport carry the exact same risk as b+2~lift with less reward? I'm confused. (Pretend I'm an idiot who doesn't play Ermac)

 

[Metzos]

So its risky to do huh?I dont like to take risk unless I have to.

It can easily be hit confirmed after a successful jp.