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Noob
I posted this in the other thread, but I want there to be a clear cut answer on this so everyone can see it without digging my answer out.
Shock and I just discussed all this earlier...
MK9 cannot be 3/5 for a multitude of reasons.
I know there's been a small fuss over it recently, especially from those who regularly attend and watch MLG. While I have been part of and do love the MLG production, as a TO of a community tournament, I have to think like one, which is logically and practically.
First, 3/5 adds at least an additional 1/3 of a tournament.
- We run pools in about an hour. 8 pools generally takes us from 3 or 4pm to about 10pm when we begin streaming top 16 down to top 8. 6-7 hours in order to run pools and that is with 8 total pools of 8-10 players(64 to 80 players). We are expecting 90+ for NEC, potentially over 100, where we will use 8 total pools of 12-16 players(96-128 players) This is an additional 1/4 extra time needed just to run 2/3. That makes each 1 hour pool take 1hr 15 mins. Take that, and add the additional 1/3 extra time to run a 3 out of 5 and you have to add to it another 25 mins per pool(1/3 of 1hr is 20 mins, and 1/3 or 15 mins is 5 mins). So our nice 1hr 15 min pools become 1hr 40 mins!!!
Equipment and Space
-We provide the equipment ourselves...meaning the TO's and a few others. We run 2 pools at a time on 3 setups per pool, plus one setup for the stream station. Many of us have purchased monitors, systems, and copies of MK9 for the sole purpose of running MK9 tournaments. Some of us have purchased ADDITIONAL copies of MK9, extra systems and extra monitors for the same purpose.
MLG runs 90+ man brackets quickly, they also have 30+ setups. Community tournaments have the room for 8-10 setup MAXIMUM! The space is not feasible to run an efficient tournament with 90+ players on only 7 setups at a time.
So who wants to step up and provide the additional space the venue needs(at likely a minimum cost of $1000 per day per event room) for a 3/5 tournament, as well as helping to foot the bill for the additional monitors, systems, and games? Lets also hope that, 3 weeks prior to the event you can even book an event room.
Streaming
-2/3 doesn't even come close to being able to stream all the stream worthy matches. 3/5 will make that even less meaning you viewers will get to see a far smaller sampling of the players.
EVO Standard
-While we are not sure if MK9 will be at EVO 2013, AND NEC is not an EVO qualifying tournament, I think it's a safe gesture, especially when BigE, SweetJohnnyCage, LI Joe, and ShinBlanka(all of whom run EVO qualifying tournaments) will be there, to show them that we still adhere to the EVO standard. It's a small gesture, yes, but we need to show as much support as possible if we want MK9 at EVO again.
The Harsh Reality
You simply don't start a petition to change the format of a game 3 weeks before a tournament of this magnitude happens. When BigE first announced NEC is when this should have been brought up so that we could have planned for it, gathered more systems, asked for more space, gotten more monitors, etc. You don't do this when there's only one paycheck left before the tournament and everyone is using it to get there and pay for their rooms, venue fees, gas, etc.
Sorry, 2/3 it is.
Shock and I just discussed all this earlier...
MK9 cannot be 3/5 for a multitude of reasons.
I know there's been a small fuss over it recently, especially from those who regularly attend and watch MLG. While I have been part of and do love the MLG production, as a TO of a community tournament, I have to think like one, which is logically and practically.
First, 3/5 adds at least an additional 1/3 of a tournament.
- We run pools in about an hour. 8 pools generally takes us from 3 or 4pm to about 10pm when we begin streaming top 16 down to top 8. 6-7 hours in order to run pools and that is with 8 total pools of 8-10 players(64 to 80 players). We are expecting 90+ for NEC, potentially over 100, where we will use 8 total pools of 12-16 players(96-128 players) This is an additional 1/4 extra time needed just to run 2/3. That makes each 1 hour pool take 1hr 15 mins. Take that, and add the additional 1/3 extra time to run a 3 out of 5 and you have to add to it another 25 mins per pool(1/3 of 1hr is 20 mins, and 1/3 or 15 mins is 5 mins). So our nice 1hr 15 min pools become 1hr 40 mins!!!
Equipment and Space
-We provide the equipment ourselves...meaning the TO's and a few others. We run 2 pools at a time on 3 setups per pool, plus one setup for the stream station. Many of us have purchased monitors, systems, and copies of MK9 for the sole purpose of running MK9 tournaments. Some of us have purchased ADDITIONAL copies of MK9, extra systems and extra monitors for the same purpose.
MLG runs 90+ man brackets quickly, they also have 30+ setups. Community tournaments have the room for 8-10 setup MAXIMUM! The space is not feasible to run an efficient tournament with 90+ players on only 7 setups at a time.
So who wants to step up and provide the additional space the venue needs(at likely a minimum cost of $1000 per day per event room) for a 3/5 tournament, as well as helping to foot the bill for the additional monitors, systems, and games? Lets also hope that, 3 weeks prior to the event you can even book an event room.
Streaming
-2/3 doesn't even come close to being able to stream all the stream worthy matches. 3/5 will make that even less meaning you viewers will get to see a far smaller sampling of the players.
EVO Standard
-While we are not sure if MK9 will be at EVO 2013, AND NEC is not an EVO qualifying tournament, I think it's a safe gesture, especially when BigE, SweetJohnnyCage, LI Joe, and ShinBlanka(all of whom run EVO qualifying tournaments) will be there, to show them that we still adhere to the EVO standard. It's a small gesture, yes, but we need to show as much support as possible if we want MK9 at EVO again.
The Harsh Reality
You simply don't start a petition to change the format of a game 3 weeks before a tournament of this magnitude happens. When BigE first announced NEC is when this should have been brought up so that we could have planned for it, gathered more systems, asked for more space, gotten more monitors, etc. You don't do this when there's only one paycheck left before the tournament and everyone is using it to get there and pay for their rooms, venue fees, gas, etc.
Sorry, 2/3 it is.
