My Updated Kenshi MU Chart - I Proclaim Kenshi is #1!

[Pig Of The Hut]

its splitting hairs...but I agree. As long as there is human involvement, there is a chance. If it were 10-0 then there is no way pig you could beat say...Amanda or Nicole with jade if they picked up kenshi. For this reason, logistically, it should be 9-1.

#bankenshi

The only time I've lost to a jade ever was because I was bored out of mind, stop thinking/caring because I was nowhere interested in playing the MU

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

The only time I've lost to a jade ever was because I was bored out of mind, stop thinking/caring because I was nowhere interested in playing the MU

I think that is Esipos point...lol

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

I am a firm believer that sonya only loses this one 4 6, and at one point, you agreed with me pig. What happened?

 

[Lulzlou]

I believe they are either both tied are kenshi is #1 due to the numbers

I was just trolling. Regardless I'm not scared of any kenshi's....
even yours

Spoiler

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I was just trolling. Regardless I'm not scared of any kenshi's....
even yours

Spoiler

U will be

 

[Prinz]

It's funny how this should've been one of Jade's winning MU's by design. Sad.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I am a firm believer that sonya only loses this one 4 6, and at one point, you agreed with me pig. What happened?

Ugh I'm torn on it honestly

I really am but what it came down to was I feel the 6-4 I have listed are harder than playing her

I could swing that MU # either way

Ill out it this way, with my Sonya me using her I don't fear any kenshi

 

[Lulzlou]

U will be

I know :c

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

It's funny how this should've been one of Jade's winning MU's by design. Sad.

Kenshi doesn't have projectiles

He has telekinetic powers that are extensions of himself

Just like ermac push

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Lol no we don't

@a f0xy grandpa please tell this guy what's up w kenshi vs kabal

Kabal gets molested in the corner, just like anybody else.
Kenshi gets molested midscreen by Kabal, has options, but they're risky.

Its inevitable that they'll both get to the corner, if you can avoid iAGBs patiently, you'll make up alot of ground at the wall.
Bird Lao shits on Kenshi.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Kabal gets molested in the corner, just like anybody else.
Kenshi gets molested midscreen by Kabal, has options, but they're risky.

Its inevitable that they'll both get to the corner, if you can avoid iAGBs patiently, you'll make up alot of ground at the wall.
Bird Lao shits on Kenshi.

I didn't include bird Lao euro

 

[OSpliffySmitheeyO]

Ugh I'm torn on it honestly

I really am but what it came down to was I feel the 6-4 I have listed are easier than playing her

I could swing that MU # either way

Ill out it this way, with my Sonya me using her I don't fear any kenshi

LBSH pig, you have balls of steel - you fear fucking no one, lol

 

[Prinz]

Kenshi doesn't have projectiles

He has telekinetic powers that are extensions of himself

Just like ermac push

True, except slashes and X-ray.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

LBSH pig, you have balls of steel - you fear fucking no one, lol

A long time ago I learned this

Say at a tournament u see the bracket when released

Someone says "OH SHITTTT pig gotta play Maxter"

My response immediately would be "NO, Maxter has to play me"

If u go into a match saying the first option most times u will lose

U have to go in confidently w the realization u prepared for everything and ready to adjust to anything and control the situation

 

[OSpliffySmitheeyO]

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And that my friend, is why your one of my faves to watch - oh, and the pop offs. lol

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

Ugh I'm torn on it honestly

I really am but what it came down to was I feel the 6-4 I have listed are harder than playing her

I could swing that MU # either way

Ill out it this way, with my Sonya me using her I don't fear any kenshi

I personally believe that sonya has some of the best answers to kenshis bullshit in the game. she has ways to avoid ex shoulder charge when almost every other character has to respect it. Her ms 2 helps her get in very quickly. Her 314/312 strings help her pressure him in the corner, and when she has meter kenshi really has to respect ex cartwheel in a lot of situations. His d3 less useful because of instant divekick, she can compete with b2 and fwd3 in footsies with d4, she actually does really well against him. It is still hard because at the end of the day she is still chasing him and it is hard to keep a life lead since she can't really turtle him even with a lead, but it is certainly doable.

 

[Juggs]

its splitting hairs...but I agree. As long as there is human involvement, there is a chance. If it were 10-0 then there is no way pig you could beat say...Amanda or Nicole with jade if they picked up kenshi. For this reason, logistically, it should be 9-1.

#bankenshi

Match-ups numbers don't factor in human involvement, so a 10-0 match-up is possible.

 

[Konqrr]

Say at a tournament u see the bracket when released
Someone says "OH SHITTTT pig gotta play Maxter"
My response immediately would be "NO, Maxter has to play me"

Pig is Rorschach:

<3

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

Match-ups numbers don't factor in human involvement, so a 10-0 match-up is possible.

So the question is then, is it possible for jade to make enough correct reads to win a game when playing with no human error. i say yes, there is nothing garrunteed about the match.

 

[Axel_Redd]

its hard to escape the corner vs kenshi, but not impossible....im so glad injustice has easy ways outta teh corner .

 

[Juggs]

So the question is then, is it possible for jade to make enough correct reads to win a game when playing with no human error. i say yes, there is nothing garrunteed about the match.

Yes, any character can win at any given time. But that doesn't change the MU numbers.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

Yes, any character can win at any given time. But that doesn't change the MU numbers.

But if the character can win at the highest possible level, it can't be absolute 10-0 can it? So is it actually like .1-9.9 (jade would win one out of every hundred games, just as an example) and we are rounding it for simplicity?

 

[ShadowBeatz]

Kenshi/Jade is 10-0? Really? I refuse to believe that until you gather up 5 of the best Jades on TYM and beat them ALL in in a FT5 without losing a single game.

Oh wait....

 

[Juggs]

But if the character can win at the highest possible level, it can't be absolute 10-0 can it? So is it actually like .1-9.9 (jade would win one out of every hundred games, just as an example) and we are rounding it for simplicity?

MU charts/numbers are based on the MU, no human influence is factored in. So even though a MU is 10-0, it doesn't mean it's unwinnable, because human influence isn't factored in.

 

[Zoidberg747]

But if the character can win at the highest possible level, it can't be absolute 10-0 can it? So is it actually like .1-9.9 (jade would win one out of every hundred games, just as an example) and we are rounding it for simplicity?

1 out of one hundred games might as well be 10-0 though, because it would be almost impossible to win two games in a set

Edit: And like Juggs said MUs are based purely on tools vs. tools, and Jade literally has nothing in terms of an advantage over kenshi.