lol Summoner got nerfed cause countless TYM threads. LBSH Casuals dropped the game week one or two, Summoner didn't get nerfed because of casuals....that fact that people on this forum think their complaint threads have any effect on balance changes at NRS is so ridiculous. I mean it is just the hight of hubris and self importance.
Summoner got nerfed because the design was stupid. If you think otherwise, then I don't really know what to say.lol Summoner got nerfed cause countless TYM threads. LBSH Casuals dropped the game week one or two, Summoner didn't get nerfed because of casuals....
your kidding yourself if you think that.lol Summoner got nerfed cause countless TYM threads. LBSH Casuals dropped the game week one or two, Summoner didn't get nerfed because of casuals....
I agree, I don't think otherwise... But if you are going to take so much away from him wouldn't you compensate with idk giving him armor or something so he doesn't get pressured to dead? Why castrate him?Summoner got nerfed because the design was stupid. If you think otherwise, then I don't really know what to say.
I wish I could quote this on every single post that likes to pretend that Tempest Laos nerfs didn't change him much!Right when you said Kung Lao's changes didn't change him as a character I turned off the video lmao. So your going to tell me that his ex hat spin nerf did not drastically change him. Now the other player has so many options to get out and all we are frame trapping is just a d4,f2 on most of the cast. (Some characters with an 8f poke we frame trap a b3) So there is nothing to really be scared of plus we don't even combo from the f2 after ex hat spin
Quan is shit. Play me on XBL I'm going to chip you to dead with A-list and Alien or mix you up to dead and won't let you get off the floor with Sonnya, A-list, Alien, Tremor, Takeda etc.Oh and quan is still alive,
play mine and youll see
This sums up one of the problems with mileena very well and it would be fine if she wasn't getting staggers,50/50's, and tick throws from it. Also her 50/50's may be punishable but she is one of the best characters at conditioning the other player because of her strings giving her a low/oh option like f12b4. She's also safe from it and she has an absurd amount of mixups from it and it breaks armor. I'm sorry but no character should have access to something that strong.This is amazing.
Lets imagine that you were a cage loyalist.
"F3 isn't a guess so its cool"
Space control can be far more devastating than a 50/50 because the opponent can feel like they have no options to attack; no ways to get in. Gunslinger is so underrated as a variation because of its space control.
Mileena is busted, as is Cage, Alien and D'vorah.
Lets just agree that they are too strong, understand that this is the way it is and move on.
Can't have characters in a fighting game that don't let their opponent play.
Agreed but I think it's healthy to discuss high level gameplay, in fact I find it extremely exciting and entertaining!This is amazing.
Lets imagine that you were a cage loyalist.
"F3 isn't a guess so its cool"
Space control can be far more devastating than a 50/50 because the opponent can feel like they have no options to attack; no ways to get in. Gunslinger is so underrated as a variation because of its space control.
Mileena is busted, as is Cage, Alien and D'vorah.
Lets just agree that they are too strong, understand that this is the way it is and move on.
Can't have characters in a fighting game that don't let their opponent play.
edit:
lets make a quick tier list.
S Tier: Alien, Mileena, cage, D'vorah
A tier: The rest of the cast except (see B tier)
B Tier: Kenshi, Tanya, Bo
As a former Tempest Lao main I completely disagree, I think every char should have extremely strong tools and everything should be hard to deal with, that would not only be exciting but also very balanced all across the board.This sums up one of the problems with mileena very well and it would be fine if she wasn't getting staggers,50/50's, and tick throws from it. Also her 50/50's may be punishable but she is one of the best characters at conditioning the other player because of her strings giving her a low/oh option like f12b4. She's also safe from it and she has an absurd amount of mixups from it and it breaks armor. I'm sorry but no character should have access to something that strong.
Lets play later today, cage will be an issue for me but a bad MU doesnt make the character shitQuan is shit. Play me on XBL I'm going to chip you to dead with A-list and Alien or mix you up to dead and won't let you get off the floor with Sonnya, A-list, Alien, Tremor, Takeda etc.
And yes I do know how to play all of them.
I love all of it, being British, forum drama and stream drama are part of our ways of life.Agreed but I think it's healthy to discuss high level gameplay, in fact I find it extremely exciting and entertaining!
Yeah I woke up at 5am today and I'm off from work, saw this thread and was like great drama!I love all of it, being British, forum drama and stream drama are part of our ways of life.
This is absolutely batshit crazy though.