You have been looking at my old tier list chart.
The video vs scorpangel was a perfect connection on og. If it looks lagged it's because of my tv/camera.I'm not trolling man. And for the record, me and Mike are long time friends. We have had plenty of laughs about you too
Seriously, the vid against Scorpangel was disgusting.
Mileena vs Scorpion is not 9-1 or 8-2
You said somewhere that you played Scorpangel Kitana vs Jax 165 matches, and I don't believe that.
You still base stories and who is better off single, garbage, online sessions against players who don't play every day like you do and I think its childish
You had Scorpion vs Liu at a ZERO for Scorp. Granted it's horrible for him (even more than the other male ninjas) but it is not a ZERO and there are none.
No offense, but you can't title who is Elite in UMK3 and who is not.
You are asking me to name who is worse against Jax and Mileena than Scorpion? Reptile, Sub, and Cage are worse. But not by much. They all get crushed by top tier so it depends on who you're better with.
There are so many characters in UMK3 that I consider Kabal through Nightwolf to be top tier. But yeah, I'm no UMK3 expert.
How is Baraka supposed to get in on Jax's golden punches and MGP's? No offense but Jax can and should completely shut Baraka down. Baraka shouldn't even get the chance to get in close to Jax. His projectile is straight shit as well. Jax can just barrage him. Scorpion has a better shot. His mobility is insane and any projectile thrown by Jax could result in a teleport to the back of the dome. His sweep game and teleport are insane against Jax, also as Hanzo noted, Male ninjas can jab pressure Jax.
The Top Tier in UMK3 is not as extensive as you believe.
Are you talking top 5 or top 10? There's a pretty big disagreement on the UMK3 tier list as well.
Read my review in the character match up Baraka vs Jax thread.
Here you go with your Theory Fighter…
I said top tier, not top 5 nor top 10. Your right though, there are huge disagreements between the UMK3 tier list. Much more than MK2, for sure.
TOP tier...Kabal then h.Smoke. That's pretty much agreed on by everyone. I say Lao is a close 3rd (this is controversial), but I also main him.
A golden punching Jax is very hard but Baraka can mix up a lot of attacks to chip damage, chase Jax to a corner, always be applying pressure etc.
Fair enough. I respect all opponents that show mutual respect.
I do agree that he does sometimes disregard the consensus of those who arrived before him a bit too heavily, but he is an elite player right now and his opinions are valid. They aren't the final say, mind you, but as for right now they're just as valid as mine or yours. I do think his opinion is sometimes a little off based on the fact that there is only really one guy out there right now playing on his level. 4-6 years ago, you had closer to a dozen truly elite online players floating around OG at the same time. I think it was easier to get a better idea of character matchups back then when you had more guys on that level, each of whom was best with different characters, constantly testing each other out. I think Jason would have had some seriously good and close matchups with guys like dvdcsn, real_talk718, kensidj, yung_nicca, wario7414, xiongbros, kanomk2 (p2p mame beast), fusion117, ariadelano, etc. and that his opinion on character matchups might be a little bit different if he had been an elite player during that time period instead of now. I also would have just loved to watch the videos, but that's a different matter entirely.
I tend to agree with you that Scorpion/Mileena is more a 4-6 matchup, but I don't think he does any better against Jax or Mileena than an elite level Kitana with IAF would. Kitana has just as many easy, big damage combos as Scorp and, of course, has much better footsie games and jab pressure, better jump kicks, and better anti-air options. That being said, I do agree with you that Scorpion played to his fullest potential hangs in there with Jax and Mileena played at theirs. He does well pressuring Jax up close and at sweep distance, shuts down Mileena's sai spam, has good mobility options, and punishes both severely when they guess wrong or make a mistake. He's a solid, mid-tier character who can hang in there with everyone but Liu (goddamn toe) due to good mobility options and big damage combos.
Thanks for the nice words
With all due respect, I've run into some of those guys on MKAK and they just aren't the players they used to be, whether due to rust (most of them barely play, if at all these days) or just never getting used to the difference in game speed and control response of MKAK. You and Caldwell came along at a strange time when the OG scene started dying around 2010-11. Not to say you guys weren't around before then, but that's when you both started getting really, really good, was around 2011. At the same time that you guys were evolving into legitimately elite players, most (if not all) of the other elite players just disappeared. Once in a while some of them still pop up, but none of them really take MKAK seriously, nor do most of them play any form of MK2 regularly, so it's just not the same.Thanks for the nice words
I base all my opinions on many hours of playing these matches vs elite players.
Real_Talk, kensidj, yungnicca, kanomk2, fusion, ariadelano.... all those guys I have played sets with.
I have mad respect for their abilities but I have also beaten them all comfortably in sets.
I say that not to brag, but to show that this I feel gives my opinion a little more weight.
Never got to play Xiong or dvdcsn unfortunately
Versus yungnicca's Scorpion, my Mileena was winning at least 8 out of 10.
Now that's a pretty sick Scorpion. Can anyone use Scorpion better than Caldwell or nicca?
So when I say this stuff, it's not to be arrogant or start drama.
I'm trying to show you guys that if you beat an elite Mileena with Scorpion, you should be having a party afterwards to celebrate!
Real_Talk, nicca, kensidj, and fusion.... played those guys back in 2011 already on og.
