Discussion MK9/MKX...Which Game Had The Best Version of a Character?

[coolwhip]

Actually, low pokes that hit crouching opponents were usually more + than hitting standing opponents with them outside of d4s. For example, Quan Chi when poking a crouching character with d3 was +10, but only +3 if they were standing.

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But it was the other way around for d4's. Maybe not for Quan, but for most characters. You got more frame advantage off a d4 against a standing opponent.

 

[LaidbackOne]

MK9 Smoke. Perfect design and gameplan for a perfect character. Fuck MKX Smoke.

 

[supernumian]

I prefer to talk about the current versione of MKX.

Kung Lao - XL (more balanced with tools across variations and not in a single character)
Jax - XL (he's stronger)
Sonya - 9 (insane character in that game, extremely good and with a more interesting stance gameplay)
Kenshi - XL (MK9 Kenshi is too much and the actual Kenshi is a more interesting character even he's bad)
Kitana - 9 (boring but stronger then in MKXL, still boring)
Scorpion - XL (much stronger)
Sub-Zero - XL (faster and with a more aggressive approach)
Mileena - XL (I mean... lel)
Kano - XL (nothing to say)
Johnny Cage - XL (more interesting gameplay, strong but require a brain and training unlike MK9 Cage)
Liu Kang - XL (see Cage XL)
Ermac - XL (insane and more interesting in XL, only mediocre in 9)
Reptile - XL (best version of Reptile ever)
Raiden - XL (the actual Raiden is a very well rounded character and by far, more interesting then MK9 Raiden)
Quan Chi - XL (nothing to say)
Sektor - XL (he's simply better for me)
Cyrax - 9 (poor Cyrax)
Smoke - 9 (love MKXL Smoke but the MK9 Smoke is the best looking character in MK9 and his tools are more viable in that game)
Cyber Sub-Zero - XL (no matter how bad or good is, Cyber Sub in MKXL is a more interesting character then before)

 

[jackempty0]

Since this is a variation game, wouldn't this kinda thing make more sense to compare "variationless" characters to the mk9 roster? Obviously triborg is specific to each character but every variation is unique and a seperate character entirely almost.

Just take the best variation

 

[STRYKIE]

Actually, low pokes that hit crouching opponents were usually more + than hitting standing opponents with them outside of d4s. For example, Quan Chi when poking a crouching character with d3 was +10, but only +3 if they were standing.

Also, there are plenty of characters that get double digit plus frames off of pokes in this game. Again, MKX Quan d3 is +14 on hit,, other characters jail into 50/50s on hit from d3s/d1s.

That was the problem with it though, it was very rare you'd catch someone in a crouching state with a poke out of pressure. Honestly if the bulk of the community went back to MK9 now I'm sure there'd be a bunch of things we'd assess/use differently.

And I assume Atk was referring to how advantageous some stuff is on block in MKX. I'm aware that most pokes in the game have enough advantage on hit to guarantee at least one follow up.

 

[ShadyHeart]

If KP3 happens and Sindel/Jade get added, it would take serious effort to make their mk9 versions better.

 

[Rude]

But it was the other way around for d4's. Maybe not for Quan, but for most characters. You got more frame advantage off a d4 against a standing opponent.

That's why I said, "outside of d4s."

 

[smokey]

Pssh people comparing some chump robot to the man...

 

[ChaosTheory]

I'd take MK9 Sub-Zero anytime. Other than MKX Sub's Slide.

 

[Linkuei82]

Kung Lao 9
Jax X
Sonya 9
Kenshi 9
Kitana 9
Scorpion X
Sub Zero X
Mileena X
Kano X
Johnny Cage 9
Liu Kang X
Ermac X
Reptile 9
Raiden 9
Quan Chi X
Cyrax 9
Smoke 9
Sektor 9
Cyber Sub Zero X

 

[xKhaoTik]

Kitana 9=X: I think it's a tie. Finally she can wakeup in MKX.

Just because she can wake up now doesn't mean she's just as good as she was in MK9 lol


On paper, you would think MKX Kitana was much better than her MK9 version but in actual gameplay, it's not even a contest on who's better

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

Mk3 Kano? I don't remember ever seeing him

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

There is no denying Ermac in MKX is infinitely better than he was in MK9.

The only two advantages Ermac had in 9 was the ground pound was unblockable and Tele Push was harder for some characters to punish.

 

[DarkSlayerSmith]

Bird lao 9
F3 ``fear the knee´´ johnny cage 9
Cyrax=9
Ermac=X
Jax=X
Kano=X
Kenshi=9
Kitana=9
Mileena=X
Quan Chi=X
Raiden=X
Reptile=9
Scorpion=X
Sektor=9
Smoke=9
Sonya=9 (D4 long as Beyonce´s legs...)
Sub Zero=X

 

[STRYKIE]

There is no denying Ermac in MKX is infinitely better than he was in MK9.

The only two advantages Ermac had in 9 was the ground pound was unblockable and Tele Push was harder for some characters to punish.

Food for thought, did you know that the unblockable ground pound he had in MK9 was -13 on HIT?!

 

[Ragnarök Tyr]

I remember it being negative but I only used it at full screen. I didn't remember just how negative it was though
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[YoloRoll1stHit]

Just because she can wake up now doesn't mean she's just as good as she was in MK9 lol


On paper, you would think MKX Kitana was much better than her MK9 version but in actual gameplay, it's not even a contest on who's better

Probably I was bad with MK9 Kitana I can't even handle Sonya matchup. Fuck d4 MS, ex cartwhell

 

[migosan]

mk9

 

[Doctor Rektangle]

MKX = Mileena, Jade, Kano, Quan, Scorpion

Good in Both: Cage, Sonya, Lao, Jax

MK9 = Kenshi, Raiden, Sub Zero, Kitana

Funny How Kitana was better than 9, but jade better in X... wonder how that happened.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[xKhaoTik]

Probably I was bad with MK9 Kitana I can't even handle Sonya matchup. Fuck d4 MS, ex cartwhell

Once you got the life lead, you had to keep that ho out lol. She had to fear f21 just as much as we had to fear d4. Couldn't really do anything about ex cartwheel tho.

 

[RevetLeafing]

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