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Tundra81

This is re-goddamned-diculous
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Curious to see how far the "Johnny only no alts" crew made it in S1 KL? I'm done with S1 for the night but we have a few more hours left which I'm sure some of you are still grinding. I couldn't quite make it out of Demi but honestly never anticipated making it this far so I consider it a success overall. Anyone make it to God? Any Elder's? Johnny only, I don't want to hear this Johnny +S/A tier BS, lol.
 

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Iowa's Finest.
Curious to see how far the "Johnny only no alts" crew made it in S1 KL? I'm done with S1 for the night but we have a few more hours left which I'm sure some of you are still grinding. I couldn't quite make it out of Demi but honestly never anticipated making it this far so I consider it a success overall. Anyone make it to God? Any Elder's? Johnny only, I don't want to hear this Johnny +S/A tier BS, lol.
I’m about 250 points away from God. So close.
 

FoughtDragon01

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Curious to see how far the "Johnny only no alts" crew made it in S1 KL? I'm done with S1 for the night but we have a few more hours left which I'm sure some of you are still grinding. I couldn't quite make it out of Demi but honestly never anticipated making it this far so I consider it a success overall. Anyone make it to God? Any Elder's? Johnny only, I don't want to hear this Johnny +S/A tier BS, lol.
I've considered pushing for God, but after the grind to Demi nearly costing me two controllers, I've decided to let sleeping dogs lie lol. I'm still happy I made it to Demi at all. It was a nice confidence boost that maybe I'm not as bad as I think I am
 

lionheart21

Its Game Over, Man
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I wish we could turn off some of the end round taunts they are all pretty cool visually, but damn he backs up so far with some of them.
I've been using caged rage alot more the last couple weeks, I need to start incorporating brass knuckles more.
When do you guys find it best to use them?
I've been using it as a corner ender, honestly.

After pop-up: 2,2,2,3,4 Brass Knucks
 
Hi guys this is the day when I pick and try Johnny Cage as well!
My goal is to have fun and knowing the character can not hurt at all.

The Living Guide looks pretty good I appreciate the effort I will learn the basics from there.

I hope few hours practice will be enough to start playing at a very minimum level.
My friend picked Geras recently he will be a good training partner. :D
 

FoughtDragon01

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Hi guys this is the day when I pick and try Johnny Cage as well!
My goal is to have fun and knowing the character can not hurt at all.

The Living Guide looks pretty good I appreciate the effort I will learn the basics from there.

I hope few hours practice will be enough to start playing at a very minimum level.
My friend picked Geras recently he will be a good training partner. :D
Welcome to the club! By all means, don't hesitate to ask questions if you need help with anything. You can even post match footage if you'd like us to review that and give you more tips to help improve your gameplay.
 
Welcome to the club! By all means, don't hesitate to ask questions if you need help with anything. You can even post match footage if you'd like us to review that and give you more tips to help improve your gameplay.
Thank you for the warm welcome. :)

I have learnt all the combos in the guide plus fatal blow cancels for the last few hours - but probably need few hundred matches to get used to it.
I did not see fatal blow cancel BnBs in the guide but I could figure what works from which buttons/strings.

Now my head is full loaded with Johnny's stuff. :D

That anti-Geras F212 is pretty huge though...
 

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Iowa's Finest.
Thank you for the warm welcome. :)

I have learnt all the combos in the guide plus fatal blow cancels for the last few hours - but probably need few hundred matches to get used to it.
I did not see fatal blow cancel BnBs in the guide but I could figure what works from which buttons/strings.

Now my head is full loaded with Johnny's stuff. :D

That anti-Geras F212 is pretty huge though...

Let me make that easy for you:

MIDSCREEN:
F344~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
34~FBC, microdash, 12~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
B34~FBC, F344~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
F4~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
12~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
F21~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick

For restand, after the NP(A), follow up with: Microdash, B2, microdash, F4~NP

CORNER:
F344~FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
34~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
B34~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
F4~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
12~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
F21~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
 
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Let me make that easy for you:

MIDSCREEN:
F344~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
34~FBC, microdash, 12~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
B34~FBC, F344~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
F4~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
12~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick
F21~FBC, 34~NP(A), dash, 121~shadow kick

CORNER:
F344~FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
34~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
B34~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
F4~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
12~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender
F21~FBC, FBC, 34~NP(A), 2,2,2,2,2, 121~ender

FATAL BLOW IN CORNER:
Starter~FBC, 34~NP(A), S1, 34~Fatal Blow
Wow nice list, thank you. :)
I found 12/244 consistent after FBC but did not even try it with 34 - probably more optimal. :)
I found F344 after F4 too I do not know if it is better or stick to 34.
 

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Iowa's Finest.
Wow nice list. :)
I found 12/244 consistent after FBC but did not even try it with 34 - probably more optimal. :)
I found F344 after F4 too I do not know if it is better or stick to 34.
34 does the most damage, but can be a funky link. It's possible to do 34 after both B34 and F4, but honestly you're better off going with F344 as the linker.

In the corner, you always use 34 because it actually hits after any starter. It's definitely the most optimal damage.
 
34 does the most damage, but can be a funky link. It's possible to do 34 after both B34 and F4, but honestly you're better off going with F344 as the linker.

In the corner, you always use 34 because it actually hits after any starter. It's definitely the most optimal damage.
You are right 34 is even more optimal than F344 (I did not even think about it) - and 34 looks even easier than F344 link.

To me F3 link after B34 is more difficult than 34 - and not even optimal. Hm I will figure my practical combos. :)
12 FB into 34 is also too strict to me (S1 link is more consistent) - yeah this is not optimal.
 
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I started playing with him and it is a disaster so far. :D
The worst that I do not input the strings properly. B34 (without 4), F344 (without 44) lol. Not even 121 fast enough or 12xxBD3 punish.
Not to talk about specials as BD3. :D

Everything is just slow enough to not come out at all.

Few more matches needed... :)
 
I was thinking of going back to Johnny but after playing a whole lotta KL. Once you get above demi god, all you play is Jacqui/Sonya/Cassie/Cetrion/Scorp/Erron so why bother with the hitbox issues.
 
I was thinking of going back to Johnny but after playing a whole lotta KL. Once you get above demi god, all you play is Jacqui/Sonya/Cassie/Cetrion/Scorp/Erron so why bother with the hitbox issues.
That's sad. Does Johnny have hitbox issue with Scorp/Erron ? Force balls looks good.

I do not know if female whiff is "issue" or simply feature to be balanced...
 
If someone from nrs came out and said its a feature i would snap my disk in half,burn it with a torch and shadow kick it to the netherrealm and never buy a nrs game again
Yeah I just picked Johnny but that makes me dissappointing. But my goal is to have fun and e.g. against Geras F212 he will be still good. :D
Just there will be less fun match ups too where it is even more challenging as plus frames does not work. Less plus frames less chip, more neutral required.

Just need to stay calm and swallow.
 

Snibbor

Kapping Knees
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That's sad. Does Johnny have hitbox issue with Scorp/Erron ? Force balls looks good.

I do not know if female whiff is "issue" or simply feature to be balanced...
The last hit of f344 whiffs on Erron. And I very much doubt this was a deliberate decision by NRS to make half of johnny’s moves whiff since I’m pretty sure it says in the game tutorial that if you are ducking, and also blocking, that high attacks will be blocked.
 

FoughtDragon01

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Sorry if this has been posted already and I just missed it, but what's the optimal Fatal Blow corner combo? So far, I just have:

StarterxxAmp'd NP, 2, 34xxFB.